Posted on 09/21/2009 5:51:47 AM PDT by Colofornian
At last,
I shall give myself to the desert again, that I, in its golden dust, may be blown from a barren peak broadcast over the sun-lands. If you should desire some news of me, go ask the little horned toad whose home is the dust, or seek it among the fragrant sage, or question the mountain juniper, and, by their silence, they will truly inform you.
--Maynard Dixon
Meant to ping you as well for the above.
Then you can just call me the court jester : ) I don't try to be clever, I just try to point out the obvious. Some people have a real hard time seeing what is right in front of them.
You are confusing the laws of men with the laws of nature. There is no truth in the laws of men, everything is arbitrary.
Thank you, finally you admit it. Finally you acknowledge you have a hard time seeing what is front of you. Now don't you feel better?
I am glad you agree : )
You're a born againer aren't you Elsie? You get up in revivals and speak in tongues and prophecy don't you? Next time you go to Church why don't you get us a prophecy regarding Obama's financial plan? I would like to know what the Feds are going to do and when? That should be a piece of cake compared to all the end of the world stuff wouldn't you think?
You've shot wide then, because the obvious is that there is fulfilled prophecy. To deny it is to call the God you claim you don't believe in a liar.
Some people have a real hard time seeing what is right in front of them.
Speaking from personal experience, I see.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Open your eyes, LG.
Ahh, you are correct. There is absolutely no difference between prophecy and fortune telling, except that fortune tellers, if they are vague enough, occasionally get lucky.
If I predict heads on a toss of a coin, occasionally (about half the time) my prediction will come true : ) Prophecy for some odd reason never seems to get it right.
(Does your arbitrary assignment include your absolute sounding assessment that "everything is arbitrary")
I'm telling you, you relativists are some of the most dogmatic people I know.
And you not only want to state what you believe in absolute terms about a so-called relative world, but you export it & impose it upon others as if we need to bow down to your absolutes.
How many faces do you wear, LeGrande?
I will certainly admit that it is much easier for me to see what I expect to see.
All the while growing up, I just assumed (saw) that the Bible was full of prophecies that had been fulfilled. It never even occurred to me to even examine (see) them. When I actually took a look at the prophecies I was stunned, there were very few actual prophecies and none of them had been fulfilled.
Now I see a little clearer than I did, but I often find that my ‘sight’ is guided by my expectations. I know well the truth in the adage about hiding something in plain sight.
I am surprised you apparently do not know the difference between prophecy and fortune telling
Which ones?
That is in regards to the laws of Men, context is your friend. But yes even in a general sense, there are no absolutes, and no that is not a self contradicting statement.
I'm telling you, you relativists are some of the most dogmatic people I know.
Dogma is a belief held without evidence. I have evidence to support my beliefs. You on the other hand have nothing more than faith. That is the definition of dogma.
And you not only want to state what you believe in absolute terms about a so-called relative world, but you export it & impose it upon others as if we need to bow down to your absolutes.
Once again, there are no absolutes. The evidence clearly indicates that that statement is true.
How many faces do you wear, LeGrande?
I strive to be consistent. If you see different faces it is probably more indicative of your changing perspective, than my changing faces. Even your question indicates that you agree with me that there are no absolutes.
I have never said I am smart. And again there is no practical difference between prophecy and fortune telling other than the fact that the prophet is always wrong and the fortune teller sometimes gets lucky with their predictions.
Yaaaaaawwwwwwnnn
Which prophecy has never been fulfilled? No prophecy has ever been fulfilled.
Christ said ""Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
That was a very definitive prophecy, basically stating that all prophecy would be fulfilled before the last member of that generation died. Obviously everyone of that generation died 2000 years ago and none of the prophecies were fulfilled. Clearly that falsifies all of the prophecies in the Bible.
I’m with svcw. Tell us which ones you consider actual prophecies that have not been fulfilled.
And I would add to that, why you consider them unfulfilled.
Fine. Provide it.
And while your at it, provide the evidence why you think that the prophecies in Scripture, mostly in the Gospels, which specifically listed as being filled, by the writers of the Gospels, weren't.
What is your evidence that they were unfulfilled?
Yes, it is.
Once again, there are no absolutes. The evidence clearly indicates that that statement is true.
Are you absolutely sure?
If it is true that there are no absolutes, then your statement is false, because it is not absolute.
If it not true that there are no absolutes, then your statement is false, because there is one absolute, which means there aren't none.
If there are no absolutes, that includes your statement and you have, in effect, said nothing.
Perhaps you could also enlighten us as to why we should take your word for anything on any matter. What makes you right and the rest of the world wrong?
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