[LifeComesFirst]

This story has been in the local news of late, and I can tell you that there has been no evidence presented of any threat to the girl. Her parents seem pretty forthcoming and her other allegations about the Noor Islamic Center don’t seem to have any merit either. It all depends on whether you trust the word of a runaway teenage girl who has a disagreement with her parents.

There’s nothing that would stick in court, or in public opinion, unless people choose who to believe based on whether they are Muslim or Christian.

[SeekAndFind]

There’s nothing that would stick in court, or in public opinion, unless people choose who to believe based on whether they are Muslim or Christian.

So, in a he said, she said scenario, given that Islam is not a monolith but a religion with different practitioners, some extreme ( and yes, honor killings have occurred), some moderate, and some even downright progressive, who do we believe ?

Is the testimony of a 17 year old girl now considered invalid because she's sill a minor ? (BTW, there are many cases where girls as young as 14 are considered of marriageable age in Islamic countries ).

Where is Solomon when you need him ?

[ntmxx]

Sorry, you are wrong!

I will say this again; there are only a few types of people who tolerate or promote the filth of Islam- the ignorant, sneaks, cheats and liars!

Islam fronts as a religion for public consumption and control; all components are about conquest and dominance. Would you call Marxism, Fascism or Supremacist movements a religion, having all the same components, the first has used economics and environmentalism the second uses Statism and Nationalism, the third uses identity politics to manipulate their public while adhering to power at the end of a gun-barrel. This philosophy has honor killings.

Please read or listen to “Prophet of Doom”; also review writings by Robert Spencer and Victor David Hanson or go to www.jihadwatch.org or http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

[muawiyah]

Yeah, it comes down to that. The Koran says kill her. The Christian Bible says love her.

I do believe that's the wedge.

[SeekAndFind]

her other allegations about the Noor Islamic Center don’t seem to have any merit either.

There have been reports otherwise.

Read This site for instance.

EXCERPT :

Noor Islamic Cultural Center's past "de facto 'scholar-in-residence'", Dr. Salah Sultan who is

...internationally-renowned for his positions with Islamic organizations, such as the Fiqh Council of North America, the Muslim American Society, European Council for Fatwa and Research and the Islamic Association for Muslim Scholars – the last two organizations headed up by his mentor, Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, who is recognized as one of the top Muslim Brotherhood thinkers and the spiritual leader for the terrorist group Hamas. When Sultan founded the Islamic American University in the Detroit area, he named Qaradawi as the honorary chairman of the board and appointed him head of the school’s campus in Qatar, despite the fact that Qaradawi has been banned from the U.S. since 1999 for his Islamic rulings authorizing the use suicide bombing terrorist attacks.

[...] While still a Central Ohio resident he participated in the issuance of Islamic fatwas (legal rulings) authorizing attacks against U.S. military troops in Iraq through organizations he holds leadership positions in, and he has personally taken positions on Islamic issues in defense of extreme Islamic punishments, including stoning and amputations, in accordance with Islamic law.

To me, a number of the connections drawn in the memo are a little stretched. For example, the lawyers make a lot out of a connection drawn to Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, who is mentioned above.

Al-Qaradawi was a mentor to Dr. Sultan, who was an Islamic scholar who spoke at the mosque, which was attended by Mohamed Bary, who therefore is willing to submit to the commission of murder. Sorry, but anyone can play six-degrees of separation and that line of argument isn't very strong. Unfortunately for Rifqa, many of their other connections are made from stronger stuff.

The list of controversial figures who have given regular speeches at the center goes on for several pages. Here again, several of the allegations are almost laughably weak, such one against as Muzammil Siddiqi, who in 1989, "condemned Salman Rushdie for his book, 'The Satanic Verses', calling it 'obscene' and called for the book to be banned." Accusing a Muslim of being an extremist for condemning the Satanic Verses is the logical equivalent of accusing a Christian of being an extremist for condemning Marilyn Manson. Had Muzammil Siddiqi been calling for the death of Salman Rushdie, in accordance with the fatwa issued by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, 'extremist' would certainly be fitting. Simply calling it 'obscene' is pretty standard stuff where religion is concerned.

The very next allegation, however, is a bit more damning.

In December 1992, just months before the World Trade Center bombings, Siddiqi hosted the mastermind of the plot, Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, and translated for him as he delivered a sermon exhorting Siddiqi’s congregants to wage violent jihad. Siddiqi’s mosque continued to sell copies of the videos of that sermon even after the Blind Sheikh had been tied to the bombings.