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To: Monkey Face; DelphiUser; novemberslady
I need no one to tell me that Jesus LIVES, and that He is the only way to Salvation.

This is where terms need to be defined, lest Mormons come across sounding "Christian."

When a Mormon talks about "salvation," they usually mean, "Just about everybody is saved. Jesus is the only way to just about everybody being saved." [near universalism -- Mormons teach just about all people will go to one of 3 "degrees of glory"]

IOW, to the Mormon, Jesus dying on the cross gives everybody a chance to be resurrected. But then you need to ask the Mormon, "well, to you, please tell me what's in store for some of those so 'resurrected'?"

In response, you won't usually hear Lds volunteer the following -- that a resurrection unto damnation is also what Jesus talked about (see below)...so much for resurrection = a form of "salvation":

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." (John 5:29)

(Lds: Please note for future reference: damnation is NOT a degree of glory!!!)

9 posted on 09/20/2009 4:22:27 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
...This is where terms need to be defined, lest Mormons come across sounding "Christian."

WHAT??? Are you telling me that even though the Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Jesus Christ, is, INDEED another testament of Jesus Christ; that the "Mormons" who are INDEED members of the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints, you still believe we are NOT CHRISTian???

Where does that come from, pray, tell? How can you say Mormons are not "Christian" if you haven't prayerfully studied the faith of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

Stop concentrating on "Mormon" and start looking at the messages that Jesus Christ has to give you.

10 posted on 09/20/2009 4:36:51 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for ForgotenKnight, my army hero grandson.)
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To: Colofornian
When a Mormon talks about "salvation," they usually mean, "Just about everybody is saved. Jesus is the only way to just about everybody being saved." [near universalism -- Mormons teach just about all people will go to one of 3 "degrees of glory"]

Sounding remarkably like the teachings that Smith was exposed to - that of Swedenborg.

In response, you won't usually hear Lds volunteer the following -- that a resurrection unto damnation is also what Jesus talked about (see below)...so much for resurrection = a form of "salvation":

Nor do they volunteer the 12 steps required for 'salvation' either

Step One: Faith
Step Two: Repentance
Step Three: Baptism by Immersion in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Step Four: Laying on of Hands by a Member of the Melchizedek Priesthood in Order to Receive the Holy Ghost
Step Five: Ordination as a Melchizedek Priest (for males only - sorry ladies, your only salvation is to be eternally pregnant as one of a god's harem)
Step Six: Receiving the Temple Endowments
Step Seven: Celestial Marriage
Step Eight: Observing the Word of Wisdom
Step Nine: Sustain the Prophet
Step Ten: Tithing
Step Eleven: Sacrament Meetings
Step Twelve: Obedience

Since the bom contains the fullness of the gospel, how come these items are not in it?

14 posted on 09/20/2009 4:53:19 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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