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To: Iscool
Really??? Even if you never repented??? Even if you have never ask Jesus to be your Savior??? Even if you don't really believe Jesus is the 'real' Son of God??? Just as long as you got baptized???

Yes, really. Do you believe the mentally handicapped are all going to hell? If forgiveness of the crippled man's sin can come SPECIFICALLY through proxy of his friends (read your Scripture) then certainly forgiveness of Original Sin can come through proxy as well, which is the case with infants, the mentally handicapped, the incapacitated, etc.

Even if you got baptized because the rest of your family or friends got baptized???

Baptism makes you a spiritual son or daughter of God. By mere virtue of that baptism, you are entitled to inherit the kingdom of heaven from your Father. One does not have to claim that inheritance, however. One may choose to deny the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and reject that inheritance. But baptism, alone, is ground for that inheritance if you choose to receive it through the mercy of Christ.

I got Good News for ya...That may very well get you into the Catholic Church but it WILL NOT get you into the Body of Jesus Christ...

Where does it state this in Scripture?

You have been deceived...But there is a way to get there...And it's very simple.. Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

First, you're operating out of context. Second, show me where it says "only" those that call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

In fact, if you want to hang your hat on that single verse, explain this one:

Matthew 7:21

"Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven."

I can't wait to hear how you reconcile the two.

62 posted on 09/17/2009 8:36:01 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I can't wait to hear how you reconcile the two.

That's easy, once you decide to believe what Jesus said the will of the Father is...

Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The will of the Father is to believe on and in Jesus Christ...And this verse goes right along with it...

Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

And then of course this one which I already posted...

Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

And that goes along with this one...

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

So now I'm curious as to what you think the will of the Father is...Care to explain it???

And to answer your non-biblical idea of who is to be baptized, here's what the scripture says about it...

Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

If you can confess with your mouth, and believe in thine heart that Jesus is the Son of God, otherwise no baptism...NO DEAL...

68 posted on 09/17/2009 9:40:52 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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