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The National Health Care - Setting The Stage For The Anti - Christ
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 8/22/09 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 09/15/2009 5:18:59 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

The cry and mantra we’re now hearing from the Obama administration and the Leftist Secular controlled Democratic Party is that we have to have a National Health Care bill passed and in place before the beginning of the summer congressional recess.

The urgency and subtlety of this bill is quite telling. Some common tactics used by the Left are camouflage, deception, manipulation, connivery and demagoguery to get the agenda that they want. It is the Left’s agenda with this issue - as well as many others - to seize massive power and control in a fascist style and manner. It is their sole desire. They are all about control and power. They are drunk with it and as an addict would, they will do whatever it takes to seize it. It is a Leftist trait.

Have you ever noticed how the Mainstream (a.k.a. the “State Run”) Media, which are of the same secular, leftist, liberal mindset, are also pushing this agenda with great passion and drive. They also have visions of an utopian, secular state. In the Leftist worldview, the state is God and all are to serve her and the elite ruling class. This ideology has been taking hold of American politics at an alarming rate. It is true that the majority of Americans are not of this persuasion, but those in power are. These have a massive stranglehold on the citizens of America and are suffocating their victims with a subtle, incrementally strengthening choke maneuver.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichrist; healthcare
Read how the stage is being set!
1 posted on 09/15/2009 5:18:59 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

***Read how the stage is being set!***

The Roman Empire fell and the antiChrist didn’t assume power. The Holy Roman Empire fell and the antiChrist didn’t assume power. The Byzantine Empire fell and the antiChrist didn’t assume power. The Napoleonic Empire fell and the antiChrist didn’t assume power. The Empires of Germany, Italy and Japan fell and the antiChrist didn’t assume power. The British Empire, the Dutch Empire, the Spanish Empire, the Portugese Empire and the post Napoleonic French Empire fell and the antiChrist didn’t assume power. The Soviet Empire fell and the antiChrist didn’t assume power. Why would the fall of the American Empire be substantially different?


2 posted on 09/15/2009 5:55:58 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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How many people will nationalized healthcare need to employ to run the behemoth. Probably over 8 million based on what the UK’s system employs. Im sure thats all part of the plan.


3 posted on 09/15/2009 6:25:32 PM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: MarkBsnr
Why would the fall of the American Empire be substantially different?

I study bible prophecy and I can answer this. It is because this is the first time in history that all bible prophecy has been fulfilled and there is 1 sign left to be fulfilled, the emergence of a one world government from which the antichrist will lead. We are in the end times for real now, the very last sign is that there will be a 7 year peace treaty (that will be broken after 42 months) with the middle east---this is when Jesus returns as they try to split Jerusalem in 2, Jesus comes back and says "ah ah ah--no you don't" and this starts WWIII (armegeddon). This is biblical fact (not the ah ah ah part lol). I watch two shows that have very respected biblical prophecy theologians that are right on the money, one is Jack Van Impe (jvim.com) and the other is Perry Stone (Mannafest-www.voe.org (they are on tv but you can also watch shows free on their sites.

It bothers me that church's have not taught their people about this stuff, some are afraid of it but Christians have nothing to fear. Even the Pope and Rev. Billy Graham have said we are in the last days. Time to crack those Bible's and start watching these programs so you can see how much of what is going on is actually biblical. It is all connected.

BTW Henry Kissinger, last January, said that the only way out of this economic chaos is a new world order and that Obama is being primed to head it. I honestly believe Obama is doing all this on purpose to force us into having to be part of this new world order, so he can be king of the world. I am not sure if HE will be the antichrist, but if he is he does not know it, Satan will be controlling the antiChrist when the time comes, but I must admit, the way Obama seems to diss Christianity and the decisions he has made with respect to Israel, make me think he is ripe for the (over)taking by Satan.
4 posted on 09/15/2009 6:42:02 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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***Why would the fall of the American Empire be substantially different?

I study bible prophecy and I can answer this. It is because this is the first time in history that all bible prophecy has been fulfilled and there is 1 sign left to be fulfilled, the emergence of a one world government from which the antichrist will lead. ***

Supposing that we agree that I am dense and have not studied and am blind. Would you be willing to lead me through the Bible prophecies that have been filled and how they have been and by whom?

I am not looking for a website; there are plenty of those with multicoloured and multisized text, most of whom identify the Pope as the antiChrist. If you could summarize it and lay it out in logical fashion, it would go a long way not only for me, but for the lurkers.

***This is biblical fact (not the ah ah ah part lol). I watch two shows that have very respected biblical prophecy theologians that are right on the money, one is Jack Van Impe (jvim.com) and the other is Perry Stone (Mannafest-www.voe.org (they are on tv but you can also watch shows free on their sites.

The trouble with statements such as “this is biblical fact” is that they preface unbiblical facts. If it were a biblical fact, there would be little reason to state it since the Scriptural proof would be brought to the post. Would you be willing to do that?

***Even the Pope and Rev. Billy Graham have said we are in the last days.***

We are. The question is when the last days end.

***BTW Henry Kissinger, last January, said that the only way out of this economic chaos is a new world order and that Obama is being primed to head it. I honestly believe Obama is doing all this on purpose to force us into having to be part of this new world order, so he can be king of the world.***

Do you have a video link? I seriously doubt that Obama is going to last his first term since he takes everything personally and is going very brittle in a way unseen since the very early days of the Republic. I think that he will be unable to continue at some point - his hair is greying at a fantastic and accelerating rate - and his speeches are increasingly shrill and contain an incredible amount of finger pointing as he runs through his speeches. Two weeks (minus the Kennedy funeral) did not really rejuvenate him - I don’t think that he has the stamina. And the MSM admits that Biden covered for him in Cabinet meetings.

I think Mr. Obama is going to resign (not get assassinated, that’s crazy) because he’s not going to be able to take the relentless pace. Unfortunately, we may be stuck with Plugs Biden.

***I am not sure if HE will be the antichrist, but if he is he does not know it, Satan will be controlling the antiChrist when the time comes, but I must admit, the way Obama seems to diss Christianity and the decisions he has made with respect to Israel, make me think he is ripe for the (over)taking by Satan.***

If all of a sudden, Obama becomes a Presidential Superman, I think that you may have a case; otherwise, I think that the evidence is scanty.


5 posted on 09/15/2009 6:58:29 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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True and all good points but... look at the day in which we live Human civilization is on the global brink. we can not keep up with the technology, Lawlessness abounds every were, etc... America is the last bastion of freedom once it’s gone were will the oppressed of the world go? The Dam is about to break and the flood will be catastrophic. Not trying to sound like a doom and gloomer just looking at it with the eyes of reality. Look out side the box then you will see it clearly my friend! Check out the link!

http://theignorantfishermen.tripod.com/id7.html
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

6 posted on 09/16/2009 12:59:10 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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***True and all good points but... look at the day in which we live Human civilization is on the global brink.***

On and off over the millennia, it always has been.

***we can not keep up with the technology, Lawlessness abounds every were, etc.***

Luddites were popular 200 years ago, as well. If you want lawless, try the American / Mexican southwest 200 years ago.

***America is the last bastion of freedom once it’s gone were will the oppressed of the world go? ***

Human Events says that the top three are Hong Kong, Singapore and Australia. Others in the top 10 are New Zealand, Ireland and Canada.

***The Dam is about to break and the flood will be catastrophic. Not trying to sound like a doom and gloomer just looking at it with the eyes of reality.***

Well, let’s take a look at the posting. There are some claims and more relatively unsupported statements. I think that if you could articulate them in abbreviated form in a post, it would serve your cause. I only post links to a Catholic website when I would point them to an online Bible or the Catechism or when I quote from it.


7 posted on 09/16/2009 5:11:33 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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My friend, that's your opinion. I believe your dead wrong... but thanks for your honest evaluation.

No offense,,but the Bible states clearly that scoffers would come in the last days dening the return of Christ. Be careful that you don't join that crowd. (2 St. Peter 3:3,4)
Scripture links are all our each of our post.. I don't know what you were inferring to.

I was raised from the womb under the Catholic teachings and dogma so I know it like the back of my hand. It wasn't until I started to read the Scriptures that I saw all the countless doctrinal errors of Catholicism and Got Saved.

Praise his Name! Christ had died, Christ is risen, CHRIST WILL COME AGAIN!

Thy Kingdom COME...Thy will be done ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. He's coming soon to set up His earthly Kingdom! I.F.

8 posted on 09/17/2009 8:30:24 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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***My friend, that’s your opinion. I believe your dead wrong... but thanks for your honest evaluation.***

I appreciate this. Thank you for posting it.

***No offense,,but the Bible states clearly that scoffers would come in the last days dening the return of Christ. Be careful that you don’t join that crowd. (2 St. Peter 3:3,4)***

I shall attempt to avoid that crowd, but the warning is well taken.

***I was raised from the womb under the Catholic teachings and dogma so I know it like the back of my hand. It wasn’t until I started to read the Scriptures that I saw all the countless doctrinal errors of Catholicism and Got Saved.***

May I know some details of that journey?

***Praise his Name! Christ had died, Christ is risen, CHRIST WILL COME AGAIN!***

That is as Catholic as it gets.

***Thy Kingdom COME...Thy will be done ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. He’s coming soon to set up His earthly Kingdom! I.F.***

The trouble is, what is soon? The Apostles were convinced that soon meant in their own lifetimes. The hullabaloo preceding the year 2000 was nothing as opposed to the lunatics that came out of the undergrowth in the year 999.


9 posted on 09/18/2009 6:28:56 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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