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In Catholic Brazil; Evangelicals on the rise (here is how they attract them)
Deacon's Bench ^ | September 15, 2009 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 09/15/2009 10:12:21 AM PDT by NYer

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A competitor took a break during "Extreme Fight" night at Reborn in Christ Church in São Paulo. Those taking part in the jujitsu competitions included one of the church's pastors.
1 posted on 09/15/2009 10:12:21 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Rinaldo Pereira, a founder of Bola de Neve, preached to the congregation. A surfboard served as the altar.


Now you can understand what the Brazilian priest in the following article is contending with.

Mass appeal: "It's like Jolt Cola for the Soul" [Catholic Caucus]

2 posted on 09/15/2009 10:15:59 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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3 posted on 09/15/2009 10:33:37 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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A surfboard served as the altar.

Just a note. It is a podium, not an altar.

4 posted on 09/15/2009 10:33:40 AM PDT by Between the Lines (For their sins of 50 million abortions God gave them over to be an ObamaNation {Romans 1:24-32})
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“Rinaldo Pereira, a founder of Bola de Neve, preached to the congregation. A surfboard served as the altar. “

God isn’t fooled ... .

Rom.12:2

[2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Prov.28:17

[17] A man that doeth violence to the blood of any person shall flee to the pit; let no man stay him.


5 posted on 09/15/2009 11:11:30 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Interesting.

New York Times...ok, not much can be believed.

Fight nights. ‘Brazilian’ JiuJitsu in Brazil? Could that be likened to church basketball leagues here in the states? I don’t think I have a problem with that.

Tattoo...not a big fan myself, but that doesn’t make you ‘not a christian’. I suppose it could be likened to a beer tent here in the states, which I have seen churches ‘sponsor’.


6 posted on 09/15/2009 11:13:27 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Between the Lines

Actually, he’s standing on the podium in front of a surfboard lectern.


7 posted on 09/15/2009 12:28:13 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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Those attending are looking for a place to express THEMSELVES more freely. A place to MEET and SOCIALIZE. That says volumes. It’s not really about Christ, is it?

The winnowing out continues. Some seed fell on good soil but was carried away by birds.


8 posted on 09/15/2009 12:32:19 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: Melian
Those attending are looking for a place to express THEMSELVES more freely. A place to MEET and SOCIALIZE. That says volumes. It’s not really about Christ, is it?

An astute and excellent analysis of the situation. Thank you for the post and ping!

9 posted on 09/15/2009 3:16:57 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Between the Lines
Just a note. It is a podium, not an altar.

Actually ... it's a surfboard!

10 posted on 09/15/2009 3:18:58 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Fight nights. ‘Brazilian’ JiuJitsu in Brazil? Could that be likened to church basketball leagues here in the states? I don’t think I have a problem with that.

The topic of this article is Evangelicals on the rise in Catholic Brazil. Catholics attend church to worship God, not to be entertained. And we Catholics do have a problem with that.

11 posted on 09/15/2009 3:21:30 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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It’s all about meeeeeeeee!


12 posted on 09/15/2009 3:43:26 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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***Actually, he’s standing on the podium in front of a surfboard lectern.***

Aren’t lecterns normally much smaller and off to one side?


13 posted on 09/15/2009 5:06:56 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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Kinda reminds me of the atrocities to Christian faith that happened in Haiti under the name of Santaria.


14 posted on 09/15/2009 5:08:29 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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The topic of this article is Evangelicals on the rise in Catholic Brazil. Catholics attend church to worship God, not to be entertained. And we Catholics do have a problem with that.

And some of us non Catholics have a problem with people getting drunked up at Catholic festivities such as Las 'Vegas night and Bingo held at the Catholic churches...

Been there, done that...

15 posted on 09/15/2009 5:19:23 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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Actually, he’s standing on the podium in front of a surfboard lectern.

No, really actually, he's standing on a platform with a temporary table thrown together with a surfboard as the table top...

16 posted on 09/15/2009 5:22:49 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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The raised platform you stand on is called a podium.


17 posted on 09/15/2009 5:45:15 PM PDT by Melian ("In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned." Twain)
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The dictionary defines a lectern as a tall stand with a sloping top used to hold a book for reading. It does not name a location in the definition.

But people do usually use the word lectern for the small stand off to one side. Just as they also use podium to designate the lectern. The podium is the raised platform speakers stand on in the front of the room.


18 posted on 09/15/2009 5:49:41 PM PDT by Melian ("In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned." Twain)
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Hate to quibble, but the surfboard is much larger than is required to hold a book in the optimal position for read and it is not tipped towards the orator.

I have not gone through the links to watch any video, but it sure seems to be the altar (although many Protestants have dispensed with the altar altogether since the idea of the Sacrifice of the Mass has been dispensed with altogether and the raised dais has become a stage in which the stars are the speakers and actors). Look at the posture of the speaker in the picture. Definitely an actor entertaining the people.


19 posted on 09/15/2009 6:01:19 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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The raised platform you stand on is called a podium.Or a stage...Or a milk crate...And since you don't generally see a surfboard as a table on a church podium, it really doesn't matter what you call it...

Straining at knats...

20 posted on 09/15/2009 6:06:29 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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