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To: Just mythoughts

***I did not say it, Christ said it. IF one does not follow Christ, then they are followers of men and that could also include elevating Paul and Timothy as Father Paul or Father Timothy.***

Exactly so, yet when one focuses on a single sentence and ignores the context around it, one is also in error. Such is this claim. Do you also follow the next admonishment and refuse to call anyone Teacher? That means that you must not call anyone Doctor (which means teacher) also.

***Matthew 23 was given to the disciples and the multitudes directly from Christ. It is an individual message as to know what would be in religious circles even unto this day.***

It was a public rebuke against the Jewish authorities, nothing more or less. If one does not comprehend Scripture (which is normal for personal interpretation), then one cannot be a Christian.


79 posted on 09/14/2009 7:50:38 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
***I did not say it, Christ said it. IF one does not follow Christ, then they are followers of men and that could also include elevating Paul and Timothy as Father Paul or Father Timothy.***

Exactly so, yet when one focuses on a single sentence and ignores the context around it, one is also in error. Such is this claim. Do you also follow the next admonishment and refuse to call anyone Teacher? That means that you must not call anyone Doctor (which means teacher) also.

IF I had only focused on one single sentence you would have a point. I reverence NO flesh man, and that would include using the word 'Teacher' in that particular context. I do not go to a Doctor to feed my 'soul', and when Christ hung on that cross at His death the miracle of the 'veil' that hid the priest was rent from top to bottom, giving each and every individual who would, direct access to the Heavenly Father through Christ. No longer was the practice required to go through a flesh man presenting a blood sacrifice to confess ones sins. The Heavenly Father reads minds and hearts and IF one repents in the name of His Son, NO flesh man has any part of the action.

Paul never presented himself as Father replacement of the Heavenly Father ever. And Christ's point was to NOT call one father in the high 'religious' point of worship of any flesh man ON EARTH. His WORDS NOT mine.

Matthew 22 demonstrates the religious community in their questions why Christ said what he said regarding how to address the religious society ON EARTH. I am not going to type the whole chapter but 22:16 kinda sets the stage for why the response was given... And they sent out unto Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, "Master, we know that Thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest Thou for any man: for Thou regardest not the person of men.. 17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest Thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?"

HERE is the difference in a flesh man and the Son of GOD.

18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, "Why tempt ye Me, ye hypocrites?

Notice in the Chapter 22 how the pious religious leaders called Christ 'Master' (teacher), but NOT in reverence but in ridicule. And Christ was yet teaching those who follow Him how to distinguish not by what is said but by what the religious leaders do. Neither Peter or Paul bound the practice of elevating any flesh being as being called 'Holy Father'.

***Matthew 23 was given to the disciples and the multitudes directly from Christ. It is an individual message as to know what would be in religious circles even unto this day.***

It was a public rebuke against the Jewish authorities, nothing more or less. If one does not comprehend Scripture (which is normal for personal interpretation), then one cannot be a Christian.

The Jewish authorities had no authority than what they were given by the powers that be from Rome. Even those the 'religious' leaders wanted Christ dead, they had no authority to carry out the deed, which is why they had to get Roman government authority.

Christ's instruction was timeless and yet specific for all 'free' minded peoples to test the 'fruit' of the tree, and it still is in effect to this day. We each individually are going to account for what we put into the 'gray' matter of our minds or spiritually speaking intellect of the 'soul' and Christ does not need a Church 'filter' to filter His WORDS to be acceptable to the traditions of flesh men.

Christ in His WORDS sowed the 'seeds' of truth as to what would be up to His return. He gave the required warnings for those that would to NOT be deceived, Matthew 24:1-6. Paul had to teach basic Christianity, 'milk' to the majority and yet he planted within his work the 'meat' of warning of what would be right up to the 'day' of the Lord. Peter wrote even regarding time before flesh man, and even how long a day is with the Lord. Peter gets used as having been given keys, but I can't find those who claim to now possess Peter's keys as being what Peter bound from his own writings.

82 posted on 09/14/2009 8:51:50 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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