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To: Petronski
Post 32 I asked you this question.

Who spoke these WORDS?

And call no man your father upon the earth: for One is your Father, Which is in heaven.

Post 36 you ignore the question but suppose the following. I suppose you never refer to your male parent as "father," and have never done so.

I respond to you with the following.

You did not answer my question.

I called my flesh father dad, and never 'holy father'. It is common to find the word 'father' on all manner of unofficial and official documents, but they never refer to anything Spiritual or Heavenly or Creator. But the instruction was NOT given regarding a flesh physical biological father now was it?

And still ignoring my question your respond with this.

You want literal, you got literal: it does not specify "flesh" or "physical" or "biological." It says "And call no man your father upon the earth: for One is your Father, Which is in heaven." So since you did just refer to your male parent as your father, you have violated your own rule.

So which is a worse sin to attribute WORDS to Christ or to deny WORDS spoken by Christ?

Now here are the WORDS of Christ, recorded and passed down to US. Matthew 23:1 "Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to His disciples,

2 Saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for One is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for One is your Father, Which is in heaven.

Christ continues through out the rest of the chapter telling us the multitudes what HE had to say about the religious community even unto this day and it is not in parable, but absolute truth.

This is not my rule this is the absolute truth out of the mouth of Christ. And if you paid close attention I used the verb call in the past tense called... my father, dad..... as my dad is NOT on this earth. When my 'dad' was on this earth I called him 'dad'.

51 posted on 09/12/2009 10:23:15 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Christ’s instruction in 23:9 can just as easily be translated as Dad.

Your post proposes a very literal understanding of Christ’s words....just not so literal to also include your violation of Christ’s words.

This is your own personal interpretation of Scripture and you are welcome to it. But it (YOPIOS) is demonstrably useless to me.

I will stick with the Church He founded to protect us, through the oversight of the Holy Spirit, from grotesque misinterpretations of Scripture, traditions of men, etc.


54 posted on 09/12/2009 11:10:00 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Just mythoughts
This is not my rule this is the absolute truth out of the mouth of Christ.

And you have violated it.

55 posted on 09/12/2009 11:11:01 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Just mythoughts
And still ignoring my question your respond with this.

Why this rather petulant insistence that I answer your question? Where did you get the idea that I must answer your question?

56 posted on 09/12/2009 11:13:50 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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