All I can say about those sons of guns is I sure hope they repented.
Part of the problem is related to the whole sacraments/ordinances disagreement. Maybe I can look at it with fresh eyes/mind tomorrow. As i understood it, one consequence of the Donatist view was the if you were baptized by a minister they thought unworthy, they said the Baptism wasn't valid, while the "orthodox" position was that the worthiness of the minister does not affect the sacraments over which he presides.
Interesting. I had never heard of the Donatists before.
I’m about to head for bed myself. I’m in no shape for a serious discussion now. I can barely read about Obama’s speech with any comprehension...