And you can insinuate that I do. That doesn't make it true.
When you post from CARM, don't expect me to pretend CARM is just some kind of innocent case of "us v. them."
What kind of Christian proselytizes Christians, or denies the Christian faith of other Christians?
...just as I could call you anti-Baptist...
Yet you won't find me lying about what Baptists believe or saying Baptists aren't Christians. But hey, if you want to emulate Matt Slick, go for it.
“When you post from CARM, don’t expect me to pretend CARM is just some kind of innocent case of “us v. them.”
I had never paid attention to their website - just the one article I had found.
I’ve read a bit more on their website. Here is what the say about Catholics:
“Are Roman Catholics Christians? They are if they have trusted in Jesus alone for the forgiveness of their sins. However, if they believe that the are saved by God’s grace and their works, then they are not saved — even if they believe their works are done by God’s grace — since they then deny the sufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice...
...CARM’s position is simple. If a Roman Catholic believes in the official Roman Catholic teaching on salvation, then he is not a Christian since the official RCC position is contrary to scripture....They need to hear the true Gospel. They need to hear that they are not made right before God by being in a church, or by being baptized, but by receiving Christ (John 1:12), believing that Jesus has risen from the dead (Rom. 10:9), and that justification is by faith (Rom. 5:1) and not by our deeds (Rom. 4:5). It is only true faith that results in true works (James 2), not the other way around. Roman Catholics, like anyone else, need to trust in Jesus alone for the forgiveness of their sins...
Finally, I believe that there are truly regenerate Christians in the Roman Catholic church. But, they are truly Christians in spite of official RCC theology and in spite of the ritualistic offerings of this ancient church which has had too many hands meddling in it through the centuries, gradually moving it away from orthodoxy and into apostasy. Yes apostasy. The Roman Catholic Church is no longer representing true Christianity.”
Sounds like you are unhappy with CARM for being Protestant.
BTW - the subject came up at our Wednesday night service at the Baptist Church I attend. The Pastor asked if anyone personally knew a Catholic who was a sincere believer in Jesus, who was trusting Him for salvation, and who stayed with the Catholic Church because of family ties, tradition, etc.
About half the of people raised their hands, including the Pastor, who was raised Catholic and whose family was entirely Catholic at one time. I wasn’t sure if I should raise my hand or not - my brother-in-law was a Catholic for 3-4 years after his conversion. He eventually became too uncomfortable with some of the doctrine and left - but he was saved for years prior to leaving.
I have no doubt many Catholics are Christians, just as many Baptists are not. But the DOCTRINE of the Catholic Church has strayed so far that it no longer is Christian Church - IMHO, and in the opinion of many Protestants.
I know you disagree, and I have no business judging your soul. You know who you trust for salvation, and you may well be a more devout follower of Christ than one of my fellow Baptists or myself. It is the DOCTRINE the Catholic Church teaches that I oppose.
But prior to Vatican 2, the Catholic Church rejected all of us Protestants as Christian, and even now barely tolerates the idea that some Protestants might be followers of Christ. I don’t resent Catholics for believing they are right, nor should Catholics be surprised or angry that Protestants disagree.