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To: NYer
Catechism 841:

The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

Any "Christian Church" that claims merely acknowledging the Creator (not even using the word God) grants you access to Heaven has some fundamental problems. According to the Catechism, suicide-bomber Abdullah will be in Heaven, but Protestant Lars will not. The former denies Jesus as Savior, the latter lives by it, yet the Church has determined that the former is to be in Heaven, the latter in the fires of Hell.

In removing yourself from the Church, the only one who suffers is you. You have removed yourself from the life-giving sacrament of Holy Eucharist.

There are plenty of other, life-affirming, Christ-centered churches for people to attend. The Catholic Church - contrary to its own dogma - is not the sole arbiter of what is Christian and Holy.

16 posted on 09/06/2009 4:41:26 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
According to the Catechism, suicide-bomber Abdullah will be in Heaven, but Protestant Lars will not.

You seem to have passed over the following in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

2258 "Human life is sacred because from its beginning it involves the creative action of God and it remains for ever in a special relationship with the Creator, who is its sole end. God alone is the Lord of life from its beginning until its end: no one can under any circumstance claim for himself the right directly to destroy an innocent human being."56

17 posted on 09/06/2009 4:46:47 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
The Catholic Church - contrary to its own dogma - is not the sole arbiter of what is Christian and Holy.

Use that line during your particular judgment and see what it gets you.


31 posted on 09/06/2009 6:40:09 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
According to the Catechism, suicide-bomber Abdullah will be in Heaven, but Protestant Lars will not.

This is completely and absolutely false -- both in terms of a suicide bomber being somehow assured of going to heaven, and a Protestant of going to hell -- and is a fine example of what Archbishop Sheen meant when he said that people hate what they mistakenly believe the Catholic Church teaches.

66 posted on 09/06/2009 9:43:11 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

***According to the Catechism, suicide-bomber Abdullah will be in Heaven, but Protestant Lars will not. ***

Are you still posting these lies after being shown the error of your ways?

***There are plenty of other, life-affirming, Christ-centered churches for people to attend. ***

Name them. There is only one Church of Jesus Christ; all others are creations of hubris-filled men. Name the church and I can name its creator. The Catholic Church was created by Christ; who created yours?


90 posted on 09/07/2009 6:40:07 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
According to the Catechism, suicide-bomber Abdullah will be in Heaven, but Protestant Lars will not.

Absolutely false. Satan is the father of all lies.

122 posted on 09/07/2009 7:53:29 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Any "Christian Church" that claims merely acknowledging the Creator (not even using the word God) grants you access to Heaven has some fundamental problems. The above seems to be in reference to this:
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
The phrase "access to heaven" is unclear. So is the relationship between your statement and the thing you quote. The Catholic Church does not teach, nor does the matter you quote say that "Access to heaven" is granted by some kind of acknowledgment.
278 posted on 09/07/2009 2:49:49 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary,conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Amen, PugetSS!


434 posted on 09/09/2009 9:30:15 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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