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To: MarkBsnr
The Bible is created; if I recall correctly from your posts, you come very close to worshipping the Bible. That is called Bibliolatry and it is normally accompanied by a complete misunderstanding of its contents.

So how does one avoid this "bibliolatry?" By believing G-d's Word is full of myths and errors?

Donal Anthony Foley is right. A suspicion of the Bible entered the Catholic Church at the time of the Reformation and paved the way for its openness to evolutionism.

128 posted on 09/07/2009 8:09:34 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hanistarot leHaShem 'Eloqeynu; vehaniglot lanu ulevaneynu `ad-`olam la`asot 'et-kol-divrey HaTorah)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Donal Anthony Foley is right. A suspicion of the Bible entered the Catholic Church at the time of the Reformation and paved the way for its openness to evolutionism.

I had to go back to your April post to find where Catholic author Donal Anthony Foley said that - but said it he did. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

....some of the more evangelically minded Christians seem to have resisted the inroads of Evolution, and this is due to the tenacity with which they have held onto belief in the literal truth of Genesis. This belief seems to have been lost to a large extent within the Catholic Church in a practical sense.

But it is important to recognise that this does not mean that the Church has fallen into error on this important point.

As far as the teachings of the Magisterium are concerned, and the documents of Vatican II, the emphasis on the Bible as the inspired Word of God is still there. What has happened is that evolutionary ideas have undermined the general faith of the Church, and so this Biblical emphasis has been overshadowed.

We can trace back this process to the Reformation, when a certain suspicion of the Bible entered into Catholic circles because of the way men such as Luther and Calvin interpreted it. The cleavage between Catholics and Protestants developed into a huge chasm as the centuries passed and was still a major factor at the time of Darwin.

Christendom had become a house divided in which, broadly speaking, Catholics base their faith on the teaching of the Church rather than the Bible. From a Catholic perspective this was not a question of seeing "the Church" or "the Bible" as opposing authorities, but of regarding the twin principles of Scripture and Tradition as normative in the life of the Church.

But one result of this emphasis was that some Catholics were inclined to accept the idea of Evolution. Like the thin end of the proverbial wedge, this acceptance of the principle of Evolution has gradually entered into the practical life of the Church, and to speak frankly, "corrupted" it.

Again it should be emphasised that this does not mean that the official Magisterium of the Church has been corrupted, but that in a practical sense an evolutionary mentality has entered into the Church's attitude towards the world.


157 posted on 09/07/2009 9:18:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

***So how does one avoid this “bibliolatry?” ***

By the interpretation of the institution that put the NT together in the first place; the only institution that Jesus created and the only one authorized to teach.


162 posted on 09/07/2009 9:26:39 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I think this post of yours was the first mention of the tiresome evolutionist nonsense on this thread. I understand that you are not an evo but you have given the evos an opening which is never wise since their blind belief in Darwin the failed theology student and agnostic or atheist enemy of God.

I have no idea who Donal Anthony Foley may be or have been but I suspect I should not encourage anyone to educate me on that subject. Papal documents tend to be replete with Scriptural references. We do, BTW, accept the entire body of Scriptures and do not reject those books inconvenient to Luther's ideology such as Maccabees which includes praying for the souls of disobedient Jewish soldiers killed in battle and sending money to the Temple for sacrifices to that end.

That as to which Catholics have always experienced grave suspicion and toward which we have exercised outright rejection is reformation notions of every person his or her own interpreter of Scripture and the thousands of errors that have arisen from the rejection by reformationists of the granting to Peter of the keys of the Kingdom and the power to bind and loose. It is understandable that those outside the Church reject this Scriptural delegation since no other Church of any apostolic succession has a pope or successor to Peter. What fun is adherence to the reformation if one cannot make it up as one goes along without all those inconvenient truths of the Magisterium.

It is not G-d's Word that is full of errors. That cannot be. It is the distortion of G-d's Word by those who claim to rest solely on the authority of G-d's Word (as they see it). Many claim to resist the "traditions of men" as they call it while believing this week's erroneous interpretation of the Rev. Mr. Whazzisname who has no more authority than anyone in his pews.

What opens the Church or any other institution to evolutionism and a lot of other sins is the sin of Adam and Eve by which all of us became fallen creatures. The papacy enjoys infallibility not impeccability (sinlessness). There may well be many popes in hell where they are joined with many who thought that they were "saved" by merely speaking a rote formula as a teenager regardless of future behavior. Catholics believe that salvation is impossible without the one-time sacrifice of Christ on the cross, but that, like Ohio State, we must grind our way to the end with endless repetition of three yards and a cloud of dust until death.

If G-d wants to make anyone an authority on Scripture or in charge of the keys, He can arrange for that person to be pope. God is wonderful. He can do anything.

299 posted on 09/07/2009 4:31:17 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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