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Catholics in the Kitchen (priest vs iron chef ... who won?)
ncr ^ | September 6, 2009 | Amy Smith

Posted on 09/06/2009 10:45:51 AM PDT by NYer

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To: fortunecookie; EggsAckley; netmilsmom
I’ve grown to like Flay.

Ditto ... and Tyler Florence as well.

Is it just me or has FN taken a dive towards featuring more and more homosexuals on their programs. The newest one, who came from out of nowhere, is skater Brian Boitano. Oh brother ... who got him his own program? Bob Tuschman?

21 posted on 09/06/2009 2:09:26 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Desdemona; kabumpo
Really, the only one on that network I can't take is Rachel Ray.

Yup ... there's another one whose head has swollen with fame. It's oddly tragic to witness simple, well-intentioned individuals progress into egotistical divas over the span of a few years.

Rachel Ray used to do food samples at our local Price Chopper supermarket. She was personable and folks enjoyed her. She even compiled a simple cookbook that one could purchase and have autographed, back then. Now she has taken over the airwaves and even has her own publication. What drives me to frenzy are her expressions "yum-o", "evoo" (which has made it into the dictionary). She even refers to her self as "Rach". How time consuming is it to add an additional syllable?

And what about the doyenne of southern cooking - Paula Deen? I used to love watching Paula and laughed each time she put in that extra pat of butter. Of late, she's overdone it and her sweetness has turned sour.

It's wrong to judge based simply on observations. Perhaps FN has groomed and moulded these women into the personalities they now project.

Any thoughts on Melissa d'Arabian? If she says "I love" one more time, I will slap her pretty face!

22 posted on 09/06/2009 2:32:38 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
I'm more of a fan of the men. Even on the cake challenge show - Kerry Vincent - yeah, the guys are much more pleasant. Paula Deen - well, being from a border state, we actually eat stuff like that.

Rachel Ray, OTOH, I don't know. There's something creepy about her.

23 posted on 09/06/2009 2:44:14 PM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: netmilsmom

LOL, I’m picturing that. He does have some great recipes.


24 posted on 09/06/2009 2:55:21 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: NYer; EggsAckley; netmilsmom
Is it just me or has FN taken a dive towards featuring more and more homosexuals on their programs. The newest one, who came from out of nowhere, is skater Brian Boitano. Oh brother ... who got him his own program? Bob Tuschman?

Yes I agree. I do think Tuschman is behind it. And Fogelson. I don't think it's just you. I think in the last few years they've taken a definite trend away from teaching us cooking, the how-to's, to more of a marketing bend (buy this, watch these guys eat), and more dumbing down (if you will) of the recipes and formats (open this can, already prepared foods). For example, Rachael Ray. I loved her. At first. Now she rubs me the wrong way. Gone are the Emeril's (it ain't rocket science, try this yourself) and Sara Moulton's and more with a technique based, teach us to fish way, to a 'watch' this and be entertained, we'll fish for you. And I still watch, but it's not the same.

25 posted on 09/06/2009 3:03:27 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: fortunecookie; Desdemona
And Fogelson.

Yes .. of course ... I had not considered her.

Gone are the Emeril's (it ain't rocket science, try this yourself) and Sara Moulton's and more with a technique based, teach us to fish way, to a 'watch' this and be entertained, we'll fish for you. And I still watch, but it's not the same.>

Yes!!! Of course! I do recall that during the final episodes of The Next Food Network Star, someone explained to the finalists that it was more than cooking and also included "their" line of cookware, etc.

Thanks for the ping and post. It's good to find another FN fan who shares the same feelings. I was a big fan of the original Japanese program Iron Chef and miss watching those reruns. It was camp .. fun ... stilted English ... and sheer entertainment. I always loved the running commentary between Fukui and Hattori. And what about that woman judge who always offered criticism or the one who posed his critique in the form of Japanese prose. It was such a dynamite show!

Ahhhh for the good days of the Food Network with programs like "How to Boil Water" where the French guy had little or no patience with the young lady.

26 posted on 09/06/2009 3:34:12 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer; Desdemona
Yes, Fogelson and Tuschman are really working to change the face of FoodTV. Maybe it's out of necessity - or maybe it's just to seek newer markets, but some of the changes leave me wanting.

Yes!!! Of course! I do recall that during the final episodes of The Next Food Network Star, someone explained to the finalists that it was more than cooking and also included "their" line of cookware, etc.

Sigh, I saw that. It's all about the marketing and product. Maybe someone should tell Susie and Bob they aren't on 'MadMen'. ;-)

And I like Sandra Lee, but seriously, I had started on a bend years ago to learn to cook more and to cook with less processed foods and we all reach for them in a hurry, but her show (and the plethora like them) are more of the same, like watching a live version of one of the woman's magazines with their processed food sponsors and recipes. (And I've enjoyed some of her recipes, too.)

Thanks for the ping and post. It's good to find another FN fan who shares the same feelings. I was a big fan of the original Japanese program Iron Chef and miss watching those reruns. It was camp .. fun ... stilted English ... and sheer entertainment. I always loved the running commentary between Fukui and Hattori. And what about that woman judge who always offered criticism or the one who posed his critique in the form of Japanese prose. It was such a dynamite show!

I'm smiling as I type, I looooved the original version. Soooo funny and enjoyable. Real artistry. I, too, miss the commentary (and it's odd translation) between Fukui and Hattori. You're right, camp, fun, and such skilled Chefs. I also like the panel of judges, most were really fun to watch and were favorites in my house. I miss that. The new American version is good but not the same, though better than it was at first.

Ahhhh for the good days of the Food Network with programs like "How to Boil Water" where the French guy had little or no patience with the young lady.

I loved that one, too!

My mother was a big fan of Julia Child and instilled a love of her in me, I watched with her as a child, and the old Food TV was like that, the newer, less so. PBS also ran a great deal of good cooking shows.

27 posted on 09/06/2009 5:11:29 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: NYer

Cool! I like Throwdown! I’ll have to set up the DVR for the show!


28 posted on 09/06/2009 6:42:12 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: fortunecookie; NYer
I'm one of the few people out there who wasn't wild about Emeril. But, he knew how to teach. I'd love old Julia Child reruns, if they'd run them.

I do agree that the "how to" has been lost of late. Watching others do things like puffed pastry makes it less scary to try on your own. I do like the cake shows, but I do wish there would be more on basic cooking.

29 posted on 09/06/2009 8:05:49 PM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Desdemona
He does know how to teach. He's connected to Martha Stewart's show now, so he still has a venue. PBS in my area has been running a 'Memories of Julia' block of various old shows of hers, check your area listings, I'm not sure if it's going to be a regular thing or not.

Martha Stewart has a pretty good show. I watched her make puff pastry (and Baking with Julia, too) and it does demystify it but I have yet to try it on my own. On the other hand, the brioche recipe I have from Baking with Julia is excellent, and turns out well every time. The cake shows (I like Ace of Cakes, but they don't show the actual baking a lot) just make me hungry for cake! ;-) Check out Martha Stewart, she does have excellent chefs on regularly and they do demonstrate. Her site has become easier to use than FoodTV's, oddly enough as it is packed with information.

30 posted on 09/06/2009 8:23:07 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: netmilsmom

I am also an Alton Brown fan. Good Eats fanpage:

http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/GEFP/index.htm


31 posted on 09/06/2009 10:18:45 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: Desdemona

xannot stand Rachel Ray — she’s so common and vulgar in her attempt to be folksy.


32 posted on 09/07/2009 12:38:53 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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