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To: Quix; blue-duncan; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg

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In regard to Kennedy, I am confused after reading many of the posts today; posts made by Catholics. Some think that Teddy went straight to hell; some think he may have had a deathbed conversion, and so on. IIRC, anyone who is baptized Catholic is a member of the RCC. Wouldn’t that mean that Teddy would be in purgatory because of unrepentant sin? The prayers of thousands of Catholic Democrats are probably praying him into heaven right now. So why shouldn’t he have a grand Catholic funeral? No hyprocrisy there.


214 posted on 08/26/2009 8:29:07 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (What is coming next?)
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To: suzyjaruki; markomalley; Mad Dawg

I’m confident plenty of Roman Catholics would agree with you.

I’m wondering . . .

I’m skeptical that God’s perspective is the same.

I don’t begrudge Kennedy a death bed repentance.

I wouldn’t really wish hell on anyone. I’m serious.

I have a lot of caring for my worst enemies.

I just think that IF he repented on his death bed,

THEN

He would have

1. Insured that Mary Jo’s family got far more money than his agreement with them for their silence gave them.

2. Insured that the vast bulk of his wealth went to anti-abortion forces.

I’m confident there will be no news of either because neither happened.

Therefore, I don’t think much of any possible or purported death-bed conversion.

However, only God knows his heart at the critical moment.

And I certainly need God’s Grace so I’m happy to hope he received God’s maximum Grace, too.


215 posted on 08/26/2009 8:32:50 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: suzyjaruki

“The prayers of thousands of Catholic Democrats are probably praying him into heaven right now.”

It will take a lot; I hear he was pretty heavy.


216 posted on 08/26/2009 8:36:57 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: suzyjaruki; Quix; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg
I'm not a big believer in "death bed confessions" from people who supposedly hear the word of God all their lives, pretend to say they believe, and then repent on death's door. These are tares that indicate an unrepentive heart who have forever spurred the word of God. This is different than someone like the thief on the cross who had rejected the message until his final hour. It's possible that God could bring them to repentance but in my mind not likely and certainly not in this fashion. God chastens and hasten us into submitting to His will and there is no evidence there was ever a chastening process.

That being said, all we can say is that Ted has now gone to receive either his wages or his reward.

BTW-I would love to know what message Ted sent the Pope.

226 posted on 08/27/2009 1:11:42 AM PDT by HarleyD
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