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To: blue-duncan; Dutchboy88; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; wmfights; Wallace T.; Quix; ...
talk is cheap. It is costing Presbyterians and Anglicans their church properties and pastors their pensions for leaving apostate denominations. The Catholic colleges lose nothing for their apostasy.

Amen!

When Obama does away with the Freedom of Conscience Act, the Bishops will run into the same problem with Catholic medical providers. Will they be willing to shut down the hospitals and clinics rather than provide abortions, contraceptives and referrals. By their stand with the colleges it looks like they will strut, fret, and fold.

No doubt they'll invite Obama to speak before their graduating children.

What are the consequences for flouting church teaching?

That depends on who is being "taught."

It occurs to me the RCC has done a very good job of further eroding society by their duel-track abortion stance.

While the bishops tell their Roman Catholic congregations not to get abortions, the secular Roman Catholics like Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy, etc., say to the rest of the world it's okay to abort your children. They even encourage it.

Thus the RC birthrate stays high while the Protestant and Jewish birthrates go down.

"For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed." -- Isaiah 9:16

164 posted on 08/26/2009 2:29:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It occurs to me the RCC has done a very good job of further eroding society by their duel-track [sic] abortion stance.

Perhaps the RCC--whatever that is--has.

But the Catholic Church has no "dual-track abortion stance," just a clear teaching that abortion--including the use of abortifacients--is murder.

166 posted on 08/26/2009 2:37:42 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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