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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; P-Marlowe; Gamecock
Yeah, little surprise.

While I do not endorse per se the aggressive spread of democracy as a means of foreign policy, the simple fact is that the United States of America came to be the most prosperous nation on Earth in such a very short time precisely because it was built upon the principles of limited government, free enterprise and individual liberty. The overwhelming majority of the areas where America has "failed" and "left behind" portions of its population are a direct result of the encroachment of communism, socialism, fascism and modern liberal progressivism into the system (often by claiming to be working to solve the very problems it creates and/or exacerbates).

The proposals advocated in the OP...these notions of overarching global governance...represent a failure of vision on the part of the church as a whole. The movement seems to be use the government as the means of doling out the grace of charity when the government is itself very often the greatest catalyst for its need in the first place. Government, properly implemented, shouldn't stand in the way (legally or economically) of the church meeting the needs of the poor.

104 posted on 08/26/2009 10:03:22 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: Frumanchu
the simple fact is that the United States of America came to be the most prosperous nation on Earth in such a very short time precisely because it was built upon the principles of limited government, free enterprise and individual liberty. The overwhelming majority of the areas where America has "failed" and "left behind" portions of its population are a direct result of the encroachment of communism, socialism, fascism and modern liberal progressivism into the system (often by claiming to be working to solve the very problems it creates and/or exacerbates).

The proposals advocated in the OP...these notions of overarching global governance...represent a failure of vision on the part of the church as a whole. The movement seems to be use the government as the means of doling out the grace of charity when the government is itself very often the greatest catalyst for its need in the first place. Government, properly implemented, shouldn't stand in the way (legally or economically) of the church meeting the needs of the poor.

Amen!

Capitalism is best spread around the globe by a healthy functioning of its core values as a light of hope to the rest of the world. When those values are smothered, as the pope demands, we're left with chaos, poverty and tyranny.

107 posted on 08/26/2009 10:08:07 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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