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To: Teófilo; marshmallow
marshmallow: Did the authority of councils cease with the end of the last of the seven?

Teo: None of the above. The Orthodox simply reject any general episcopal assembly called, presided, and dismissed by the Bishop of Rome after the schism

If the Orthodox did not attend then the Church as a whole did not attend and therefore no Council is considered general after the first Seven (number Eight is disputed anyway).

The Pan-Orthodox Councils held since then are not considered Ecumenical by the Orthodox either, for the same reason, except in reverse—because the Latin Church did not attend. At least we are consistent! :)

marshmallow: The Orthodox deny that we are born in Original sin? Really? This is heresy, no? Then what's the point of Baptism? What sin is being removed from the soul with the sacrament? None? Then why bother?

Teo: No, they conceive Original Sin in another way, the way in which I explained it.

Baptism removes any sins you actually committed in order to enter the Church (Body of Christ). As for infants, they are washed and presneted to Christ wihtout sins. Christ taught that the Kingdom of God belings to those like them; he considered them innocent and suggested that unless we become like them, we might as well forget it.

Judaism never looked at what happened in the Garden as transmittable sin. That is the Augustinian 4th centuriy innovation. Christ never taught it as such. That was more +Paul's idea. Also the way Romans 5 is written, it can be read two different ways. The Greeks read it differently from the Latins and I think the Greeks have a slight edge given that it was written in their language. :)

53 posted on 08/07/2009 3:15:40 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: kosta50
If the Orthodox did not attend then the Church as a whole did not attend and therefore no Council is considered general after the first Seven (number Eight is disputed anyway).

How about other Councils such as the Fourth Lateran Council, and the First and Second Councils of Lyons; were not these attended by the Orthodox and, if so, why are they not considered General Councils too?
111 posted on 08/08/2009 7:32:10 AM PDT by Vera Lex
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