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To: Mr Rogers

I quoted myself, I believe, accurately. The point was that the individual believer was referred to by St. Paul. Since I had to repeat the point I made earlier, I used quotation marks.

The wood, straw, etc are burned off (see text), and therefore that is more than revealing imperfections, it is also removal of imperfections by burning them, i.e. purification. It is about 10th time I explain that.


437 posted on 08/13/2009 4:05:45 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
"The wood, straw, etc are burned off (see text), and therefore that is more than revealing imperfections, it is also removal of imperfections by burning them, i.e. purification. It is about 10th time I explain that."

More like the 20th, but repetition doesn't make it correct. The passage isn't talking about a man's soul, but about the work he did in this life that is tested.

If you build a chair, and it breaks when I sit on it, your soul isn't purified. Furthermore, as I've pointed out more than 20 times, a Christian is made perfect by Christ, and it has already happened. According to scripture, Jesus HAS MADE us PERFECT FOREVER. It also says "it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment" - not 'it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes a period of refinement to pay for temporal sins and make us good enough for heaven'.

I don't care if you want to believe Mary remained a virgin forever. It is silly, but not particularly harmful. But Purgatory contradicts darn near the entire NT. It is the Anti-Gospel.

"Purgatory (Lat., "purgare", to make clean, to purify) in accordance with Catholic teaching is a place or condition of temporal punishment for those who, departing this life in God's grace, are, not entirely free from venial faults, or have not fully paid the satisfaction due to their transgressions."

But Scripture says, "But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast."

and "he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy."

and "13For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins."

Our sufferings do not cleanse us from sin - "...without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."

441 posted on 08/13/2009 5:00:23 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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