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To: aMorePerfectUnion

But the Protestants don’t read the scripture without the preconceived theology. Just watch my arguments over any scripture on this thread: I stay close tot he text, and the Protestnat opponents offer ways not to read the passage as all that meaningful and offer theories out of their own head. Or theor pastor’s head, or some commentator.

Many, by the way, after studying in Protestant seminaries, convert to Catholicism or Orthodoxy, because they sense that their reading of the scripture cannot explain the entirety of it. Some become very visible in converting others, check out, for example, Stephen Ray, Scott Hahn, James Akin, Frank Shea for starters.


353 posted on 08/11/2009 6:08:52 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; aMorePerfectUnion

“I stay close tot he text, and the Protestnat opponents offer ways not to read the passage as all that meaningful and offer theories out of their own head.”

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are our exchanges on 1 Corinthians 3 & Purgatory.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2303075/posts?page=222#222

Let anyone read the text, and derive Purgatory if they can - but it is NOT there, as even the commentators on the NAB have allowed.

For quick reference, here is the passage ‘on Purgatory’:

“For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field, God’s building. 10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it.

Let each one take care how he builds upon it. 11For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.”

What about Mary and other children? Repeatedly, the Scripture references the bothers and sisters of Jesus, which the Catholics claim are cousins - even tho Greek had words for cousin and kin, and used them 14 times in the NT, including the Gospels.

What about the sinless Mary, taught NO WHERE in Scripture, and contradicted repeatedly?

Then there are the passages on the veneration of Stephen...or are there? The passages on going to your Priest for penance. Indulgences. Etc.

And of course, the solid documentation of Purgatory.

Sorry, annalex, but Catholics don’t even try to approach Scripture with an open mind. Nor, according to your doctrine, should they - since the Catholic Church has the only true interpretation, only a heretic would approach Scripture with an open mind.


354 posted on 08/11/2009 6:28:02 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: annalex

“Just watch my arguments over any scripture on this thread: I stay close tot he text, and the Protestnat opponents offer ways not to read the passage as all that meaningful and offer theories out of their own head. Or theor pastor’s head, or some commentator.”

Your readings may represent what you have been taught,
but you have decidedly not stayed close to the text.
I’ve interacted with you on this thread and seen it
first hand. I think you are projecting onto Protestants,
those vile people.

“Many, by the way, after studying in Protestant seminaries, convert to Catholicism or Orthodoxy, because they sense that their reading of the scripture cannot explain the entirety of it.”

I don’t deny that some do. I would not say “many”. Thousands
study in seminaries every single year. How many is many
to you? I can assure you tens of thousands of church members
go the opposite direction each year. I’m not sure either
of those points means what you are arguing.

Best to you,
ampu


362 posted on 08/11/2009 6:46:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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