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To: Mr Rogers

Yes, the woman gives birth to a child (v.2) Who is with God (v 5) and hated by Satan (v.4), the son Whose angles defeat Satan (v.9) and Whose name is Christ (v.10). I wonder who this woman might be.


352 posted on 08/11/2009 6:03:05 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Lets see if I’ve got this right...

“Yes, the woman gives birth to a child (v.2) Who is with God (v 5) and hated by Satan (v.4), the son Whose angles defeat Satan (v.9) and Whose name is Christ (v.10). I wonder who this woman might be.”

“1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.”

So Mary appeared in Heaven while pregnant with Jesus.

“5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”

Remember, in Revelations 2, Jesus tells a church, “25 Only hold on to what you have until I come. 26To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations— 27’He will rule them with an iron scepter; he will dash them to pieces like pottery’— just as I have received authority from my Father.”

So the son the woman gives birth to is not Jesus, because Jesus will GIVE this one authority to rule with an iron scepter.

But after Mary gives birth to Jesus - or maybe after His ascension, she flees into the wilderness:

“And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.”

This son defeats Satan, although in verse 11 we read this one - well, actually, they - “11 They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death” - which sounds more like the Church than Christ. Nor does verse 10 specify the son mentioned earlier is Christ.

And after this, we read, “13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman [Mary?] who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman [Mary?] was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman [Mary?] and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her [Mary?] offspring—those who obey God’s commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.”

I may wonder a bit about who the woman may be, but it is pretty certain it isn’t Mary the mother of Jesus.


363 posted on 08/11/2009 6:47:14 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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