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To: Iscool

“Now the virginity of Mary was hidden from the prince of this world, as was also her offspring, and the death of the Lord; three mysteries of renown, which were wrought in silence, but have been revealed to us.” (St. Ignatius: Letter to the Ephesians; Ch 19)

I’m quite sure you looked it up already. Yes the verse, see above, is authentic. You can throw all sorts of things about satan and evil at the verse but it still remains authentic. Truth matters and it will matter even more in a decade or two when Christians will need every single authentic Holy Tradition to support Sacred Scriptures.

Iscool said - “Jesus WAS the Son of God??? I got news for Iggy, Jesus is STILL the Son of God and He IS God...

I’ve got serious doubts that Ignatius was a bishop at Ephesis...The Ephesians would have quickly straightened out Ignatius in his faulty theology...”

He was the Bishop of Antioch! No one said he was the bishop of Ephesis. “Iggy” is called St Ignatius - please show some respect. St Ignatius was martyred in Circus Maximus because he wouldn’t renounce his Christian faith. Your need to be anti-Catholic at all times is standing in the way of rational thought.


202 posted on 08/09/2009 11:30:15 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville
When St. Ignatius was summoned to Rome before Emperor Trajan to account for his faith, he was accompanied on this long journey by several citizens from Antioch who were motivated by a great love toward their wonderful Arch-shepherd. Since he would never deny his faith in Christ, this saint of God who abhorred all adulation and promises of Emperor Trajan, was condemned to death and was thrown into the Circus Maximus before wild beasts. The wild beasts tore him apart, and he gave up his soul to God. His companions then gathered his exposed bones and took them to Antioch and honorably buried them. But when the Persians captured Antioch in the sixth century, the relics of St. Ignatius were again translated from Antioch to Rome.
203 posted on 08/09/2009 11:31:49 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville; Iscool

***“Iggy” is called St Ignatius - please show some respect. St Ignatius was martyred in Circus Maximus because he wouldn’t renounce his Christian faith. Your need to be anti-Catholic at all times is standing in the way of rational thought.***

We cannot make it personal. The noble Iscool may make all the statements that he wishes in whatever form he wishes with or without any justification whatsoever. He may be the most foaming at the mouth rabid anti Catholic whatsoever. His comments may resemble the leavings of the great apes, but we must never make it personal in our reply back to him. If we cannot debate him on theological and Scriptural grounds, then we should not debate him at all. We do not know that he has a need to be anti Catholic at all times and even if he does, we must not comment on it.


210 posted on 08/09/2009 1:24:41 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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