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To: annalex

“She is second only to St. Peter and of course Jesus himself in the frequency of her appearance in the scripture.”

I’m not so sure about that, but it is a separate issue
from the one I am pursuing now, so I am going to put
it aside.

“That several doctrines of the Church do not have a direct scriptural prooftext, indeed, as Kolokotronis explained, is not an obstacle for venerating Mary. The Scripture generally does not inform us of lives of even the early saints, yet we venerate them all.”

I understand the position of the Roman and Eastern Church
on Tradition. Yet that is not the issue I was searching
to find. I will set that aside for now - and I do not
deny it.

“You are applying the wrong standard, according to both the Orthodox and the Catholic: you think that if the scripture is silent about something then it should not be believed.”

Actually, I do not.

“We do not hold that standard, and in fact, for you to be consistent,. that standard should then be spelled in the Bible, and it is not.”

I find that the major teachings are in fact, in holy
Scripture. Major doctrines are there. Major practice,
there. When something that has been major is not there,
it seems peculiar. That is all.

Thanks,
ampu


145 posted on 08/08/2009 4:46:26 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
find that the major teachings are in fact, in holy Scripture.

Which ones?

Major doctrines are there. Major practice, there.

Which ones?

When something that has been major is not there, it seems peculiar. That is all.

Most of Christian dogmas is not in the Scripture.

161 posted on 08/08/2009 8:27:20 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I find that the major teachings are in fact, in holy Scripture. Major doctrines are there. Major practice, there. When something that has been major is not there, it seems peculiar. That is all

Veneration of saints is by its very nature something that required time to develop, and therefore is not int he scope of the inspired scripture. However, we do have the commandment to love one another, pray for one another, and to be light to one another, and that is what veneration of saints is all about. Specifically about the Blessed Virgin Mary, we have an assurance that "all generations will call her blessed" (Lk 1), she leads the Church in her battle with Satan (Rev. 12) and she is given us as our mother (Jn 19) and advocate before Christ (Lk 2:35). An instance of such veneration is recorded int he Scripture (Lk 11:27). We know much more about veneration of Mary from the Gospels that we do about, for example, how to conduct marriage or funeral ceremonies, or do confessions, or even baptisms.

256 posted on 08/10/2009 2:42:18 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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