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Why Catholics Will Not Get Abortion Out of the Health Care Bill
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| 8/03/09
| Deal Hudson
Posted on 08/05/2009 1:52:45 PM PDT by Salvation
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posted on
08/05/2009 1:52:46 PM PDT
by
Salvation
To: Salvation
Here’s what I think — these Bishops came out (over 100 of them) against Obortion Obama during the election. (I will post the list below.)
Why aren’t they speaking out against the mandated abortion in this bill?? Let alone the mandated euthansia espoused in this bill.
I feel sick to my stomach right now.
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posted on
08/05/2009 1:55:02 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Salvation
Notre Dame = football, basketball and abortion. ND can go to h*ll.
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posted on
08/05/2009 1:55:04 PM PDT
by
Frantzie
(Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
To: nickcarraway; Lady In Blue; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; Catholicguy; RobbyS; markomalley; ...
The list of U. S. bishops who have spoken out on the priority of the life issues in this election is now over 100. The list now contains 70 individual bishops and three joint statements.
I would like to continue updating this list until the day of the election. I have tried to incorporate all the comments thus far. If I dd not get them all, I apologize. (For a few of the suggestions, I could not find a suitable link.)
Please continue using the comments section to let us know what bishop is not on this list who should be. This would include any bishop who has individually, or jointly, published a statement about this election pointing out the primacy of the life issues.
Thank you for your help.
1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver
2. Bishop James Conley, auxiliary of Denver
3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.
4. Justin Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities
5. Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine
6. Edward Cardinal Egan of New York
7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo
8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh
9. Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs
10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio
11. Bishop Oscar Cantu, auxiliary of San Antonio
12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Centre
15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin
17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando
18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis
19. Francis Cardinal George of Chicago, President of the USCCB
20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker
22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland
25. Bishop Glen Provost of Lake Charles, LA
26. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn
27. Bishop Joseph F. Martino of Scranton
28. Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura
30. Bishop Peter J. Jugis of Charlotte
31. Bishop Michael F. Burbidge of Raleigh
32. Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, KS
33. Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO
34. Bishop Robert C. Morlino of Madison, WS
35. Bishop Ronald Gilmore of Dodge City, KS
36. Bishop Paul Coakley of Salina, KS
37. Bishop Michael Jackels of Wichita
38. Bishop Gerald M. Barbarito of Palm Beach
39. Bishop Kevin W. Vann of Fort Worth
40. Bishop Rene H.
Gracida, retired, of Corpus Christi
41. Daniel Cardinal
DiNardo of Houston
42. Bishop Paul S.
Loverde of Arlington
44. Bishop William
Murphy of Rockville Center
45. Bishop Robert
McManus of Worcester
48. Archbishop Edwin
O'Brien of Baltimore
49. Bishop Thomas J.
Olmsted of Phoenix
50. Bishop Thomas D.
Doran of Rockford
51. Bishop Joseph A.
Galante of Camden
52. Bishop Robert J.
Baker of Birmingham
53. Archbishop Alexander J.
Brunett of Seattle
54. Bishop J. Peter
Sartain of Joliet
55. Bishop John M.
Smith of Trenton
56. Bishop Earl
Boyea of Lansing
57. Bishop Leonard R.
Blair of Toledo
58. Bishop Frances J. Dewane of Venice
59. Bishop W. Frances
Malooly of Wilmington
60. Bishop Robert
Morlino of Madison
61. Bishop John
Yanta , retired, of Amarillo
62. Bishop James V.
Johnston of Springfield-Cape Girardeau
63. Archbishop John
Vlazny of Portland
64. Bishop Blase J.
Cupich of Rapid City
65. Bishop Lawrence
Brandt of Greensburg
66. Bishop Dennis M.
Schnurr of Cincinatti
67. Bishop Larry
Silva of Honolulu
68. Bishop Paul
Swain of Sioux Falls
69. Bishop Michael J.
Sheehan of Santa Fe
70. Bishop Eusebius
Beltran of Oklahoma City
71. Bishop Kevin C.
Rhoades of Harrisburg
72-94. Joint Statement by the bishops of New York State (22 bishops)
95-111. Joint
Statement by the bishops of Pennsylvania (16 bishops)
112-116. Joint
Statement by the bishops of Kansas (4 bishops)
117-126. Joint
Statement by the bishops of Florida (9 bishops)
Added by me
Catholic Ping!
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posted on
08/05/2009 1:57:51 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: All
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posted on
08/05/2009 1:59:35 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Frantzie; Mrs. Don-o; topher
This isn’t about Notre Dame, this is about Obamacare.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:01:26 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Salvation
I feel the devil is hard at work, and we all need to pray long and hard for this country.
To: Frantzie; Mrs. Don-o; topher
This isn’t about Notre Dame, this is about Obamacare.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:01:43 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Unam Sanctam
Organizations in that link above My jaw just hit the floor as I read it.
Here's the links to voice our displeasure at their point of view.
CHA declined any further comment on the matter.
To express concern:
Catholic Charities USA
66 Canal Center Plaza
Suite 600
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
Phone: (703) 549-1390
Fax: (703) 549-1656
info@catholiccharitiesusa.org
Sister Carol Keehan, President and CEO
The Catholic Health Association
1875 Eye Street NW, Suite 1000
Washington, DC 20006-5440
phone: (202) 296-3993
ckeehan@chausa.org
Society of Saint Vincent de Paul
58 Progress Parkway
St. Louis, Missouri 63043-3706
phone: 314-576-3993
fax: 576-6755
usacouncil@svdpusa.org
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:09:11 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Salvation
Notre Dame showed that many Catholics, at least what I call “Notre Dame” (faux) catholics with a small c, could care less about abortion. They (50+%) love Obama and voted for him.
Notre Dame fawning over Obama allowed Obama to realize he can push abortion and do whatever he wants and catholic universities will give him awards.
If you still don’t understand - Thank Notre Dame for “punking” real Catholics who actually give a sht about stopping baby killing. Notre Dame can go to h*ll.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:09:19 PM PDT
by
Frantzie
(Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
To: Salvation
What do you think?
I think I'm confused. (no offense meant)
I downloaded a pdf copy of HR 3200 and searched with Adobe's excellent search function for any reference to 'Abortion', or 'Choice'. And not a single 'hit' came back in any of the 1017 pages to those words.
Now I've seen scores of article like this that keep saying Abortion is in the bill, but they never say where in the Bill it is. For other 'hot button' issues like for the Elderly a section is referenced, but never in articles about abortion.
So like I say, I think I'm confused.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:09:58 PM PDT
by
Condor51
(The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
To: Condor51
Do another search.
It’s called ‘family planning’ in the bill.
What cowards they are to not even use the word abortion or Freedom of Choice.
It’s there — trust me.
Go to “Stop the Abortion Mandate.com (I think) to register your name on a petition.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:13:42 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Salvation
They don’t come out against this because the extermination of millions of unborn humans is less important than a promise of “health care” to millions of humans who managed to survive to be born. Abortion kills humans who are rarely if ever seen and never heard. So it is much easier to ignore those people than it is those against whom the “right” to abortion has not been exercised and who are able (and inclined) to complain about their lot in life.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:15:29 PM PDT
by
scory
To: Frantzie
I understand what you are saying about Notre Dame. We all railed against it here on FR.
This one is about Obamacare. And if we don’t voice our views to the bishops, then we all need to contact our senators and representative to voice our views.
Those elected officials aren’t there to do what THEY want, but what WE, their consituents want.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:16:01 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Salvation
Its called family planning in the bill.
ah-ha! I'll search again, thanks.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:16:02 PM PDT
by
Condor51
(The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
To: Condor51
page 425 if I remember correctly.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:17:42 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: wagglebee; narses; cpforlife.org; Coleus; Mrs. Don-o
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:20:11 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Salvation
Why arent they speaking out against the mandated abortion in this bill?? Let alone the mandated euthansia espoused in this bill."What does the bill contain on these two issues? Any source to read?
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:20:11 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
To: Salvation
It is about funding the murder of babies in ObamaCare (plus killing granny).
Thanks to Notre Dame’s efforts - Obama will think he owns Catholics. Catholics or any opposition from GOOD Catholics has been marginalized by Notre Dame and the stupid & liberal AMERICAN catholic church. I am sure the Pope did not approve of Notre Dame giving awards to someone who supports about and the worst forms of abortion.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:21:16 PM PDT
by
Frantzie
(Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
To: ex-snook
I’ve received several downloads in emails. Let me see if I can find a link.
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posted on
08/05/2009 2:22:12 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
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