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To: kosta50
How do you know that the mitzvot are God's commandments? And which mitzvah says you must believe in God?

For Noachides it's the prohibition of idolatry. For Jews it's 'Anokhi HaShem 'Eloqeykha 'asher hotze'tikha me'Eretz Mitzrayim, mibet `avadim ("I am HaShem your G-d Who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage")--the first of the Ten Utterances at Mt. Sinai.

Chickens are not mentioned in either list as either permitted or prohibited. Yet Jews know (not "believe") that they are permitted to eat chicken. How do they know this?

I don't have a clue. If I had to guess it would be because they are not mammals and don't ruminate, and they are not carnivorous. But the answer is still dependent on assumption that the Bible is truly God's word.

You didn't understand my question, perhaps because you are not familiar with the text. Both sections dealing with kosher and non-kosher species have a paragraph dealing with birds. Birds don't have a hard-and-fast rule like mammals and fish do. All both sections do is simply list a number of birds that are not kosher. Now . . . chickens aren't mentioned at all, one way or another. Neither do we know from other places in the Torah that they are kosher, as we do with doves and partridges. Yet Jews know that chickens are committed. Now, having restated this, try one more time. If you can't do it this time I'll tell you.

So you don't consider yourself a chr*stian? What's your word for yourself?

I am who I am

So is everyone else, yet you don't cut the people you disagree with any slack.

(and I don't mean God, so don't jump to nay conclusions). I have no label.

Yet you hang out here and pretend to be Eastern Orthodox, beating your chest about how it is "real chr*stianity" even though you don't even know that J*sus ever existed. (You really enjoy driving rednecks crazy, don't you? I'll bet you really went to town with magnifying glasses and ants when you were a kid.) And if somebody calls you on it you back up and say "now wait a minute, I didn't actually say I was Eastern Orthodox, did I?" And the "real" Eastern Orthodox on this forum play along with you because twanging rednecks are such an embarrassment to the "glorious chr*stian religion" and need to be put in their place.

BTW, though I doubt you're interested, I have a few labels for you.

98 posted on 07/27/2009 8:14:57 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `ani, beshevet `evrato!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
("I am HaShem your G-d Who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage")--the first of the Ten Utterances at Mt. Sinai.

Are you joking? That's not a mitzvah that Hebrews must believe in him. This is supposedly God who allegedly "introduced" himself to Moses. Of course, we "know" about it because it's in the book—that is, if you are willing to believe it's true.

I will give you another chance: where does God say in the Bible "You must believe in me"?

Yet Jews know that chickens are committed.

Well, judging from the above, you have pretty much used up that "knowing" card. But I am sure there is a convoluted reason or maybe it's just a game you are playing and there is no reason. If the reason is religious, it's an assumption.

So is everyone else, yet you don't cut the people you disagree with any slack

And you do?

Yet you hang out here and pretend to be Eastern Orthodox, beating your chest about how it is "real chr*stianity" even though you don't even know that J*sus ever existed. (You really enjoy driving rednecks crazy, don't you? I'll bet you really went to town with magnifying glasses and ants when you were a kid.) And if somebody calls you on it you back up and say "now wait a minute, I didn't actually say I was Eastern Orthodox, did I?" And the "real" Eastern Orthodox on this forum play along with you because twanging rednecks are such an embarrassment to the "glorious chr*stian religion" and need to be put in their place.

I didn't realize I was this popular with you. I can't say I remember a single one of your posts (nothing personal, just not very impressive). But, speaking of "hanging around" isn't it what you are doing on Christian topics, yet Christianity is so odious to you that you won't even spell its name fully. Imagine if we wrote J*ws and J*daism!

As for me "pretending" to be Eastern Orthodox, I was baptized Eastern Orthodox as an infant and raised in the Orthodox faith. So, where is the pretense? If I have my doubts does that nullify my baptism? And how would you know anyway? And, yes, Orthodox Christianity is not only real but the purest Christianity of all. It's a historical issue, not a value judgment. Eastern Orthodoxy remains liturgically unchanged more than other branches of Christianity.

No I don't know if Jesus ever existed. That doesn't mean one cannot believe he did. How do you know Moses existed? How do you know Exodus happened when there is no trace of it? And how could over a million people (if one can trust biblical figures) roam around a patch of land the size of West Virginia for 40 years—"lost" when the whole place can be covered on foot in five days' time? And how can such multitude leave nothing behind, not even their garbage? I am sure there is some numerological, mystical, kabbalistic explanation for that as well that I would just love to hear along with your chicken story, but don't expect me to readily believe it.

BTW, though I doubt you're interested, I have a few labels for you.

My pay is the same, no matter what you call me.  I guess I should be flattered that you spend so much time finding labels that would fit your idea of me, and memorizing my posts. Sounds a little obsessive to me that I am that important in your life? I am sorry, I don't care about you nearly as much.  

118 posted on 07/28/2009 2:23:53 AM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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