“roof establishes something as undeniably true, and objectively real. It is universal. No other possibilities exist. “
There is the problem. Proof such as you desire exists in mathematics. It is NOT the standard used in court. It is also not the standard you use for any of your decisions. Nor have I ever met anyone who thinks God or any religious belief can be proven like that. There is a reason religions are called ‘faiths’.
So we get back to our discussion on a previous thread - you ask for proof, and I’m telling you that you cannot have it. End of discussion.
Mr. Rogers: There is the problem. Proof such as you desire exists in mathematics. It is NOT the standard used in court.
Beyond the shadow of a doubt is not the standard in the court?
It is also not the standard you use for any of your decisions.
I use it all the time. I do not touch hot stove tops. I do not jump off tall buildings. I do not stick my fingers into electrical outlets, etc. These are all fact-based decisions. It's called being in touch with reality. Something religion is not. The world of religion is a magical world where donkeys talk sensibly and where people live inside a fish for days, where diseases are cause by 'demons' and where cure for every ill is driving those 'demons' out!
Nor have I ever met anyone who thinks God or any religious belief can be proven like that.
Then why do they believe what cannot be proven? And why do they speak and act as if what they believe in is a fact?