[MarkBsnr]

***I’ve given you some. If you cannot see it, then you are beyond my help. I’ve never heard of a MAN who created all things, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible. I suggest thinking about what the word ‘God’ means...***

I would suggest looking at the terminology. All things were made for and through Him. This does not identify Him as God. All this does is identify Him as powerful.

Please note that I believe that Jesus is Divine and the second Person of the Trinity; it is just that Paul does not specifically identify Him as God.

[Mr Rogers]

It says all things were created BY Him. If God is not the Creator, then you might have a point.

[boatbums]

Sorry, I'm late to the table again...was on another thread.

Re:I would suggest looking at the terminology. All things were made for and through Him. This does not identify Him as God. All this does is identify Him as powerful.

Please note that I believe that Jesus is Divine and the second Person of the Trinity; it is just that Paul does not specifically identify Him as God.

I beg to differ, Paul most certainly referred to Jesus as God. Several times when he even was first starting out in the ministry. He says:

Act 14:15

And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:,

Also:

Act 17:24

God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

I read from just these two verses that Paul says the true God created all things. If it is agreed that Jesus created ALL things, then Jesus must be God.