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To: MarkBsnr
Personal belief may or may not coincide with Christianity.

Bricks and mortar may or may not coincide with Christianity.

Firstly, now do you know that they are Christians?

It is the Spirit who sanctions.

Secondly, groups such as the Oneness Pentecostals claim to be Christians yet clearly are not.

According to you. It is the Spirit who sanctions. While I find errors in their doctrine, I find more error in Catholicism, and even Calvinism (my own historical roots).

The Spirit moves upon the Oneness churches. They see the gifts of the Spirit in their churches regularly. That means more to me than any doctrinal error does.

Thirdly, the Church is the only organization authorized to compile doctrine and to teach.

Agreed. But then one must determine the identity of the Church.

I will show you Scripture that sanctions the Church.

Sure. and I will show you Scripture that shows that the Spiritual gifts show the Presence in the Church (IOW prove the Church). Anyone can hang up a sign and throw up some pews...

Where is your personal sanction? Can you photocopy it and post an image on this thread pleasea?

Why?

1,619 posted on 10/23/2009 4:14:10 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1

WHy?

Soooooooooooooooo

The DUPLICITOUS, blood thirsty rock throwing rabid shredders can have a relentless go at it,

OF COURSE!


1,620 posted on 10/23/2009 4:22:59 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1

***Personal belief may or may not coincide with Christianity.

Bricks and mortar may or may not coincide with Christianity. ***

By bricks and mortar, I thought that you were referring to the Church. The Church defines Christianity. Therefore it is entirely coincindent.

***Firstly, now do you know that they are Christians?

It is the Spirit who sanctions.***

That is not an answer.

***Secondly, groups such as the Oneness Pentecostals claim to be Christians yet clearly are not.

According to you. It is the Spirit who sanctions. While I find errors in their doctrine, I find more error in Catholicism, and even Calvinism (my own historical roots).

The Spirit moves upon the Oneness churches. They see the gifts of the Spirit in their churches regularly. That means more to me than any doctrinal error does.***

Not to me. That is the point. This is a claim of innate knowledge, which is Gnostic. And not Christian, given the definitions of the heresy of Gnosticism.

***Thirdly, the Church is the only organization authorized to compile doctrine and to teach.

Agreed. But then one must determine the identity of the Church.***

Already done. Scripture, and the Apostolic and Apostolic Father writings are clear.

*** will show you Scripture that sanctions the Church.

Sure. and I will show you Scripture that shows that the Spiritual gifts show the Presence in the Church (IOW prove the Church). Anyone can hang up a sign and throw up some pews...***

And many do. One must go to Scripture, which points to the Apostles, then the Apostolic Fathers for correct identification.

***Where is your personal sanction? Can you photocopy it and post an image on this thread pleasea?

Why?***

You claimed that you have been personally sanctioned by the Holy Spirit. What is the manner of that sanction? How can you show it?


1,627 posted on 10/23/2009 4:50:01 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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