Who is "us" exactly?
Is it the group that thinks Jesus Christ wanted to make the Jews jealous?
Is it the group that believes UFOs are flying around with fallen angels?
Is it the Machenites who fabricate quotes and falsely attribute websites?
Or is "us" just a collective group that agrees on very little other than their hatred of the Catholic Church?
Now if I were a betting woman.......
It’s certain Catholics. Not all, but a certain few.
You're at a disadvantage here...You're not speaking to Catholic aspirants who don't have a clue what God says...Or to other Catholics who as well, don't have a clue what God says...
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
If you guys want to pat each other on the back by agreeing God was lying, have at it...
If the Jews had accepted the Messiah when he came, you guys would be calling yourselves the One True Synagogue of the Messiah...You're fooling nobody but yourselves...