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To: Kolokotronis

“sfa, I am completely involved in the judicial system”

That explains why you’re twisting what’s being said and trying to make it heresy,dear brother

+John of Damascus and it is discussing the meaning and importance of the word Theotokos

That was the point being made.

“”It is disingenuous at best and mendacious at worst for you to imply that the Bishop was discussing and somehow endorsing the “Co-Redemptrix””

From Blessed Fulton Sheen’s Calvary and the Mass....
http://www.sanctamissa.org/en/resources/books/calvary/the-sanctus.html

“We are children of Mary-literally, children. She is our Mother, not by title of fiction, not by title of courtesy; she is our Mother because she endured at that particular moment the pains of childbirth for all of us. And why did our Lord give her to us as Mother? Because He knew we could never be holy without her. He came to us through her purity, and only through her purity can we go back to her. There is no Sanctus apart from Mary. Every victim that mounts that altar under the species of bread and wine, must have said the Confiteor, and become a holy victim-but there is no holiness without Mary.

Note that when that word was spoken to our Blessed Mother, there was another woman there who was prostrate. Have you ever remarked that practically every traditional representation of the Crucifixion always pictures Magdalene on her knees at the foot of the crucifix? But you have never yet seen an image of the Blessed Mother prostrate. John was there and he tells in his Gospel that she stood. He saw her stand. But why did she stand? She stood to be of service to us. She stood to be our minister, our Mother. If Mary could have prostrated herself at that moment as Magdalene did, if she could have only wept, her sorrow would have had an outlet. The sorrow that cries is never the sorrow that breaks the heart. It is the heart that can find no outlet in the fountain of tears which cracks; it is the heart that cannot have an emotional break-down that breaks. And all that sorrow was part of our purchase price paid by our Co-Redemptrix, Mary the Mother of God!”


43 posted on 07/24/2009 12:47:53 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

“Have you ever remarked that practically every traditional representation of the Crucifixion always pictures Magdalene on her knees at the foot of the crucifix?”

I doubt I have ever seen a crucifixion icon which shows Mary Magdalene on her knees, sfa, nor Panagia for that matter. Maybe some of your decorative religious paintings show Mary Magdalene on her knees; those sorts of paintings show all sorts of things outside the consensus patrum. What I have seen is the Epitaphios Thrinos icon which shows Christ having been taken down from the Cross. Mary Magdalene stands to the left with her arms raised in mourning and Panagia ON HER KNEES cradling the head of her dead Son.

Now, since traditional crucifixion iconography, which is within the consensus patrum and a primary element of Holy Tradition, shows both Panagia and Mary Magdalene standing at the foot of the Cross and traditional iconography of the removal of His body from the Cross shows Panagia on her knees, I have to conclude that your interpretation of Western decorative religious art as being somehow an instruction from God that she is standing at the foot of the Cross to be of service to us is simply utter nonsense.


63 posted on 07/24/2009 2:31:19 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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