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To: bdeaner
If you're reading the Bible as a science book, you're reading it wrong.

Translation: if you believe all that stuff actually happened.

Yes, I believe all that stuff actually happened. Just as you hypocritically (and in utter contradiction to your own position) believe J*sus was born to a virgin mother, multiplied loaves and fishes, walked on water, and rose from the dead. Did you not know that each and every one of these alleged events contradicts science? They couldn't have happened! If you believe they did, you are obviously reading the new testament as a "science book!"

BTW, for what it's worth, cosmogony isn't science at all. Science has nothing to say about cosmogony at all. It is wholly a Theological subject and the Torah is certainly theology.

36 posted on 07/24/2009 6:50:40 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Be`ever haYarden be'Eretz Mo'av; ho'iyl Mosheh be'er 'et-haTorah hazo't le'mor.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

To be honest with you, I think the physical sciences so overwhelmingly support a view of the origin of the universe that is at odds with Genesis taken literally, I would sooner give up my belief in the Bible than my belief in physics if a literal interpretation was the only valid interpretation. Fortunately that’s not the case. On the contrary, physics overwhelmingly, via circumstantial evidence, supports the belief in a Creator. Science has strengthened my faith, not weakened it.

Also, transbustantiation does not violate the principles of science, because the transformation of the Eucharist into Christ’s body is not a change in the substance of the host — the material aspect of the host examined by science — but rather a change in its essence, which is not in the realm of science, but taken for granted by it.

There are however miracles such as the Virgin Birth that are singular events that violate scientific principles, but that is the very nature of a miracle, without which it would not be a miracle. They are miracles because they are singular and non-repeatable, and therefore outside the realm of science, which is the examination of measureable and repeatable events. Science does not contradict the belief in the miraculous, rather, the miraculous is outside the limits of science.


37 posted on 07/24/2009 10:20:30 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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