I said a lot more than that sentence, about that subject. We debated the topic for about a half hour.
Well it’s good to know you gave it a half hour try.
That said, you’re dealing with someone who sucked in a lot of bad ideas for WAAAAAY more than 1/2 hour. It is very difficult for a 1/2 hour talk to reverse years and years of bad thinking. As you have discovered.
You did what you could do. It might lay some groundwork for others to build on.