A few points before going to bed...
Trinity. Not mentioned by name in the Bible, but it is clearly taught that God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is one God, but 3 persons. This we can accept by faith, without understanding.
A few hundred years into church history, a great deal of debate and declarations of heresy arose over the exact nature of the Trinity. I consider that good evidence that folks were already losing sight of this reality - we cannot reason our way to God, nor can we comprehend Him.
Scripture doesn’t teach the exact nature of the Trinity, and why should it? It isn’t needed for coming to God, believing in God, repentance, rebirth, living for God - so why do men worry about it?
“...he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people.
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.” — Titus 3.5-10
“Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.” - 2 Timothy 2.23
What God has revealed, we can know and accept, if not fully understand. What God has not revealed is worthless for knowing Him, so why should we fight over it?
“Yet Protestant freedom of conscience is valued more than unity and the certainty of doctrinal truth in all matters (not just the core issues alone).”
Why is this? As I’ve said before, wheat and tares. Catholics are fond of saying that God will protect the Church from error, but Jesus taught otherwise.
“He put another parable before them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat and went away. So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared also. And the servants of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ So the servants said to him, ‘Then do you want us to go and gather them?’ But he said, ‘No, lest in gathering the weeds you root up the wheat along with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.’” — Matthew 13.24-30
When will the weeds be separated from the wheat? At the harvest.
Peter said the same: “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words.” — 2 Peter 2.1-3
What did Peter predict?
“...there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies...And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed.’
Notice, he didn’t say, “Just follow my teaching and the teachings of My Successor”. There WILL be false teachers. Many WILL follow them. The Truth WILL be blasphemed.
Doesn’t sound like his successor is appointed to prevent the tares from mixing with the wheat...
But if we search the scriptures to see what is true, we will keep being led back to the common ground needed for godly living, if we have the Holy Spirit. And if we do not, we are tares.
And OF COURSE we need a teacher. “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.” - John 16.6
Who does Jesus say will teach us? “The Holy Spirit.”
What does Jesus say he will teach us? “All things.”
Not “the infallible teaching authority, which is the Magisterium of the Church” - sorry, bdeaner, the Magisterium of the Church isn’t tasked by Jesus to be the infallible teaching authority. That is what the Holy Spirit does.
“Trinity. Not mentioned by name in the Bible, but it is clearly taught that God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is one God, but 3 persons. This we can accept by faith, without understanding.”
Then there are some things you will accept on “faith” even though they aren’t specifically spelled out in the Bible?
You can’t have it both ways, Mr. Rogers. You can’t take Catholics to task because you don’t think our beliefs are spelled out specifically enough for you in the Bible, yet choose to accept something on faith that is nowhere to be found in Scripture. You are believing an oral tradition from the original Catholic Church if you believe in the Trinity.
If we’re right about the Trinity, based on the oral teaching from the early Church that we have carefully preserved throughout time, common sense says that our other teachings are worthy of careful consideration.
One last thought on the leadership of Peter, Mr. Rogers, before I go to bed:
Scott Hahn writes:
“ In Isaiah 22 beginning back in verses 19 and 20, we have some very interesting background. This is where Jesus goes for a quotation to cite this passage.
What’s happening here? Well, in verse 19 it says, “I will thrust you from your office and you will be cast down from your station and on that day I will call my servant Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah, and I will clothe him with your robe and will bind your girdle on him and will commit your authority to his hand, and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the House of Judah; and I will place on his shoulder the key of the House of David.”
The House of David is the Davidic kingdom, the Davidic dynasty. We know this because David has been dead for hundreds of years when this is happening in Isaiah 22, “I will give you the key of the House of David. He shall open and none shall shut, and he shall shut and none shall open. He will become a throne of honor to his father’s house.” Look at all of the symbols of dynastic authority that are being given to this individual. First of all, an office. Second, a robe. Third, a throne and fourth, keys, the key of the House of David, these royal keys.
Now, Eliakim is a minister in the cabinet, but now he is being granted the Prime Minister’s position. How do we know? Because he is given what the other ministers do not have, the keys of the kingdom, the key to the House of David. That symbolized dynastic authority entrusted to the Prime Minister and dynastic succession. Why? Because it’s the key of David; it’s the House of David.
Let me go back and try to simplify this even further. I’ll read the quote. Albright says, “In commenting upon Matthew 16 and Jesus giving to Peter the keys of the kingdom, Isaiah 22:15 and following undoubtedly lies behind this saying.” Albright, a Protestant, non- Catholic insists that it’s undoubtable that Jesus is citing Isaiah 22, “The keys are the symbol of authority and DeVoe rightly sees here the same authority as that vested in the vicar, the master of the house, the chamberlain of the royal household of ancient Israel.” In other words, the Prime Minister’s office.
Other Protestant scholars admit it too, that when Jesus gives to Peter the keys of the kingdom, Peter is receiving the Prime Minister’s office, which means dynastic authority from the Son of David, Jesus, the King of Israel, but also an office where there will be dynastic succession. The role of Peter as steward of the kingdom is further explained as being the exercise of administrative authority as was the case of the Old Testament chamberlain who held the keys.”
Now, what he means there is that nowhere else, when other Apostles are exercising Church authority are the keys ever mentioned. In Matthew 18, the Apostles get the power to bind and loose, like Peter got in Matthew 16, but with absolutely no mention of the keys. That fits perfectly into this model because in the king’s cabinet, all the ministers can bind and loose, but the Prime Minister who holds the keys can bind what they have loosed or loose what they have bound. He has, in a sense, the final say. He has, in himself, the authority of the court of final appeal and even Protestants can see this.
In fact, I found this quotation in Martin Luther from 1530, years after he had left the Church, “Why are you searching heavenward in search of my keys? Do you not understand, Jesus said, ‘I gave them to Peter. They are indeed the keys of heaven, but they are not found in heaven for I left them on earth.’” This is Jesus talking, “’Peter’s mouth is my mouth, his tongue is my key case, his keys are my keys. They are an office.’” Luther even saw it, “’They are a power, a command given by God through Christ to all of Christendom for the retaining and remitting of the sins of men.’” The only thing that Luther won’t admit is that there was succession after Peter died, which is exactly what the keys denote, given their Old Testament background.”
Sorry this is long, but it might help. If you do a web search for Scott Hahn, you will find his writings and he will answer all your objections much better than I can. He understands the Protestant point of view very well.