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Is a “Cashless Society” a Sign of the End?
American Vision ^ | July 20, 2009 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 07/20/2009 12:16:39 PM PDT by topcat54

I’m beginning to see that prophetic speculation is taking place on the fringes of the Christian publishing industry. Of course, you will still find the occasional prophetic pot-boiler. Mark Hitchcock writes a couple of prophecy books a year. They are mostly exercises in “newspaper exegesis,” driven more by current events than the Bible. Consider these three, all to be published in 2009: The Late Great United States (Multnomah), 2012, the Bible, and the End of the World (Harvest House), and Cashless: Bible Prophecy, Economic Chaos, and the Future Financial Order (Harvest House). How do you go from The Late Great Planet Earth, Hal Lindsey’s mega-best seller from the 1970s, to the end of America? It seems to me that The Late Great Planet Earth would have included the United States. Anyone familiar with Lindsey’s timetable will remember that it was all to happen before 1988. Of course, these publishers are counting on people not remembering or not even knowing of past failed predictions. As P.T. Barnum is reportedly to have said (it was actually David Hannum), “There’s a sucker born every minute,” and these suckers make money for companies that continue to publish out-of-date prophecy books that end up being an embarrassment to the Christian faith.

The cashless society argument has been done before. Hitchcock’s former co-author, Thomas Ice, wrote The Coming Cashless Society in 1996 with Timothy Demy. Where does the Bible mention a “cashless society”? Revelation 13:17 is used as the operating prophetic text on this issue: “And [the Beast] causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.” How does this translate into a cashless society? The “mark” is the key to the transaction. Nothing is said about what the people are using to buy or sell. It just says that they can’t buy or sell without the “mark,” and the mark has to be 666 on the forehead and right hand, not an imbedded microchip. If it’s a microchip in Revelation 13, then it’s a microchip in Revelation 14:1.

What if the world decides to make gold the coin of the realm? Wouldn’t this be a good thing? How could we oppose a world currency based on gold since it’s written into our constitution? “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility” (Art. 1, sec. 10). Even the Bible considers gold to be a normative currency for everyone.

The meaning of Revelation 13:17 has to be found contextually. Like much of Revelation, its familiar symbols are meant to represent familiar concepts to its first readers. This is why Revelation must be read against the backdrop of the Old Testament and the contemporary historical context. As Ferrel Jenkins writes: “The book of Revelation is the most thoroughly Jewish in its language and imagery of any New Testament book. This book speaks not the language of Paul, but of the Old Testament prophets Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel.”[1] The beasts, both sea (Rome) and land (Israel), the mark on the hand or head (Deut. 6:8), and the number 666 should be interpreted in light of the Old Testament (1 Kings 10:14), similar to the way Sodom (Rev. 11:8), Egypt (11:8), Jezebel (2:20), Balaam (2:14), and Babylon (14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2, 10, 21) are interpreted in Revelation. By understanding the way the Old Testament uses and applies marks and the significance of 666 (spiritual adultery with the nations: 1 Kings 11), it is not that difficult to determine what John is describing in Revelation 13.

There is an article on the Always Ready Apologetics Ministry Blog (ARAMB) website with the title “A One World Monetary System” (July 14, 2009). The “evidence” that Revelation 13:17 could be in the process of being fulfilled is that Russia, China, and other nations want to switch from the Dollar to a “united future world currency.” This must mean that at the present, the Dollar is the united world currency; it’s been so since after World War II. So why wasn’t the Dollar the fulfillment of Revelation 13:17? Charlie Campbell, the Director of ARAMB, doesn’t offer a sound biblical argument for his claim that “the Book of Revelation speaks of a time when there will be a one world monetary system in place (see Revelation 13:16–18).” His interpretation is based on an already adopted dispensational system. But there is no real exegesis to back it up. Campbell should take notice of his May 13, 2009 article “Hermeneutics 101: Interpret Scripture with Scripture.” He offers some very good advice:

A correct interpretation of the Bible will always be consistent with the rest of the Scriptures. Therefore, it is essential for us as students of the Bible to interpret a passage in light of what the rest of the Scriptures say on the topic.

Whoever carried the mark of the beast would be identified as someone who aligned himself with the beast, and whoever carried the mark of the Lamb would be identified with the blood and seal of the Lamb (Rev. 14:1). Those who identified with Rome against Jesus Christ died in the destruction of Jerusalem when Titus and his army swept in to destroy the temple and the city. These are the ones who drank “of the wine of the wrath of God” (14:10). Those who carried the name of Jesus’ Father “written on their foreheads . . . follow the lamb wherever He goes” (14:1, 4). The two marks identified two groups of people: one for Christ and one against Christ. As far back as Genesis, we find the division: “And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heal” (Gen. 3:15). Cain and Abel fit the pattern throughout biblical history that will one day culminate in the final judgment. Revelation 13:17–18 is not about economics.

The control of economic transactions drives modern claims of a one-world government controlled by the antichrist during the great tribulation. This sensationalistic but popular view is outlined by Thomas Ice and Timothy Demy in their book The Coming Cashless Society:

Using every means at his disposal, including the technology of a cashless society, the Antichrist and his demands will bring the world into its greatest-ever moral and economic turmoil. Such chaos will make the stock market crash of 1929 look like a minor economic adjustment.

Revelation 13:16, 17 is the biblical point of entry for discussion of the cashless society, a one-world government, global economics, and biblical prophecy.[2]

Revelation 13:16–17 says nothing about a “cashless society.” Having gone out on a limb with their prediction, the authors come back to biblical reality and write, “The Bible does not specifically predict computers, the Internet, credit cards, or any of the other trimmings that facilitate the modern electronic banking system.”[3] In fact, Revelation 13:16–17 does not describe the control of financial transactions but rather access to the temple controlled by the Jewish anti-Christian religious establishment. The key to interpreting the passage is the prohibition “to buy or to sell” (13:17) if a worshipper does not have the mark of the beast.

Buying and selling, properly understood, are worship-related rituals (Isa. 55:1–2). “This is established in [Revelation] 3:18 (and compare 21:6). When those who refuse the mark of the Beast are not allowed to buy and sell, it means that they are expelled from the synagogue and Temple. The merchants of the land in Revelation 18 are those who worshipped at the Temple and synagogue.”[4] “Babylon the Great,” described as “the great city” (18:2, 10, 21) is Jerusalem (11:8; 16:19). Jesus foretold that this would happen: “They will make you outcasts from the synagogue; but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God” (John 16:2). Keep in mind that it is the “beast coming up out of the land” that is involved in these events. The land beast is most certainly associated with first-century Israel, especially the priests who control the temple.

Early in the church’s history the disciples went to the temple to preach the gospel (Acts 5:20–21, 24, 42; 24:12). At first, they were welcomed (Acts 2:46). Peter and John frequented the temple during “the hour of prayer” (Acts 3:1). Jewish Christians continued to use the temple, even participating in some of its rituals (Acts 21:26). After the temple officials learned that these Jews were preaching that Jesus was the Messiah—the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world—Paul was “dragged . . . out of the temple; and immediately the doors were shut” (21:26–30).

Jesus tells the church of Laodicea, “‘I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire, that you may become rich. . .’” (Rev. 3:18). How were the people to buy gold from God? Buying gold refined by fire is symbolic and relates to spiritual worship. It is reasonable, therefore, to assume that the reference to “buying and selling” in Revelation 13:17 is also symbolic and related to worship.

The interpretive background for understanding Revelation 13:17 can be found in the gospels. During Jesus’ ministry, the temple officials were “selling,” and worshippers were “buying,” access to the temple (Matt. 21:12). Their “buying and selling” turned “God’s house” into a “robbers’ den” (21:12–13), a “synagogue of Satan” (Rev. 2:9; 3:9). Only those Jews who aligned themselves with the priests, the sacrificial system, and the temple buildings were allowed to enter the temple for worship. If anyone approaching the temple did not have the mark of the beast, that is, if they did not align themselves with what the temple now represented apart from Christ, they could not “buy or sell” in order to offer the appropriate sacrifices.

To take the “mark of the beast” meant a person denied that Jesus was the Messiah, the true temple of God, the only sufficient sacrifice. Of course, Christian Jews avoided the “mark of the beast” and showed their true allegiance to Jesus, “having His name and the name of his father written on their foreheads” (Rev. 14:1). They did this through public professions of faith and allegiance to Jesus over against the corrupt priesthood that had chosen Caesar over Christ (John 19:15).

When commanded not to “speak to any man in this name,” Peter and John responded, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to give heed to you rather than to God, you be the judge; for we cannot stop speaking what we have seen and heard” (Acts 4:18–20). When the disciples heard Peter and John’s account of their encounter with the priests Annas and Caiaphas, they turned to Psalm 110 for understanding: “‘Why did the Gentiles rage, and the peoples devise futile things? The kings of the earth took their stand, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord and against His Christ’” (Acts 4:25-26). This “rage” only intensified as Jews made their decisions regarding Jesus more resolute.

All of these passages fit together nicely since true redemption comes from Mt. Zion where “the Lamb was standing.” And where is this “Mount Zion”?: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriad of angels” (Heb. 12:22). Revelation 13 and 14 contrast two ways of salvation: access to the stone temple through the mark of the beast (Rev. 11:1–2) or through Jesus the true temple (John 2:13–25) and the mark of the Lamb (rev. 14:1)

Endnotes:
[1] Ferrel Jenkins, The Old Testament in the Book of Revelation (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1976), 22.
[2] Thomas Ice and Timothy Demy, The Coming Cashless Society (Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 1996), 69–70.
[3] Ice and Demy, The Coming Cashless Society, 85.
[4] James B. Jordan, A Brief Reader’s Guide to Revelation (Niceville, FL: Transfiguration Press, 1999), 19.


Permission to reprint granted by American Vision, P.O. Box 220, Powder Springs, GA 30127, 800-628-9460.


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To: Quix
We have been over that before.

Yes we have. Somehow you don't get around to answering questions.

I'll rephrase my question: how do you square the plain meaning of Galatians 3:29, that we Christians are heirs of Abraham, with dispensationalism's rigid two peoples of God axiom?

121 posted on 07/21/2009 10:13:08 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: Lee N. Field

OF COURSE Christians are joint heirs with Abraham’s seed—GOD SAYS SO. THAT SETTLES IT.

That also has NOTHING TO DO WHATSOEVER

with God’s EVERLASTING promises to Abraham’s seed.

It’s silly and UNBIBLICAL to think otherwise.

Seems exceedingly obvious to millions of us.


122 posted on 07/21/2009 10:17:54 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Religion Moderator
Given that you were pinged on the Religion Moderator's admonition, and the fact that you employed singular personal pronouns in several of your more insulting statements, it stands to reason that the language of your posts was indeed "personal."

Please do not ping me to any more posts in this thread as I have no desire to be subjected to further insult, whether directly or by necessary implication.

123 posted on 07/21/2009 10:25:32 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: Frumanchu
Please do not ping me to any more posts in this thread as I have no desire to be subjected to further insult, whether directly or by necessary implication.

Been there, done that.

124 posted on 07/21/2009 10:32:55 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: woollyone
“Buying and selling, properly understood, are worship-related rituals ( Isa. 55:1–2). “This is established in [ Revelation] 3:18 (and compare 21:6). When those who refuse the mark of the Beast are not allowed to buy and sell, it means that they are expelled from the synagogue and Temple.” ...

I’ll stick to the interpretation in the normal sense, ...

People tend to ignore the Scripture and believe what they wish to believe, adopting mantras like "normal sense" which really makes no sense when compared to the Bible.

125 posted on 07/21/2009 2:08:07 PM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: Quix
OF COURSE Christians are joint heirs with Abraham’s seed—GOD SAYS SO. THAT SETTLES IT.

That also has NOTHING TO DO WHATSOEVER

with God’s EVERLASTING promises to Abraham’s seed.

You are stubborn, aren't you.

I can quote many, many passages, warning Israel "according to the flesh" not to count of physical descent, many, many passages clearly showing that believing Gentiles are in while unbelieving physical descendants of Abraham are cut off, that believing Gentiles are grafted in, not planted alongside, and you wouldn't see it. Dispensationalism is more important.

A memetic virus is what it is.

Abraham and his seed will be heirs of the world.

127 posted on 07/21/2009 8:20:44 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (2)How many things are necessary for thee to know,..? the first, how great my sins and miseries are;)
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To: Lee N. Field

WRONG.

SCRIPTURAL TRUTH

IS MORE IMPORTANT

THAN ANYONE’S NONSENSE ASSUMPTIONS AND BIASES ABOUT IT.

NON-SEQUITUR SCRIPTURES AND SILLY PONTIFICATIONS BASED THEREON

have no influence on Dispensational Scriptures whatsoever.

GOD ALMIGHTY

is the one who said that

HIS EVERLASTING PROMISES TO ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB

ABOUT GOD ALMIGHTY’S PROMISES TO ABRAHAM RE HIS SEED WOULD BE IN FORCE AS LONG AS THERE WERE STARS etc.

NONE of the rest of Scripture trumps that one on that issue.

Mangling the whole rest of Scripture into NONSENSE REPLACEMENTARIANISM would not phase God in the least on the matter.

Nor would it fool thoughtful well read Dispensationalists either.


128 posted on 07/21/2009 8:26:03 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lee N. Field; airborne; AngieGal; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; backhoe; bearsgirl90; bethtopaz; ...
The REPLACEMENTARIAN, preterist, a-mil etc. perspective(s) would

REQUIRE

[in terms of GOD'S EVERLASTING PROMISE remaining in effect to the children of Jacob AS LONG AS THERE ARE STARS . . .]

That ALMIGHTY, ALL KNOWING GOD

just dropped the ball and didn't realize He'd have to negate such EVERLASTING PROMISES because

the children of Jacob would turn out to be

horribly . . .

wellllll . . . uhhhhhhh

human . . .

Throwing all GOD'S EMPHATIC EVERLASTING PROMISES TO ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB out the window

because omniscient ALMIGHTY GOD just happened to have a bad day on every day He made such erroneous promises.

Yet y'all call me UNBIBLICAL!!!!??????????

What a sick joke!

I doubt God's laughing about it, however.

129 posted on 07/21/2009 9:45:59 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

What a splendidly well done violation of the rules.


130 posted on 07/21/2009 9:47:24 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Leave the thread.


131 posted on 07/21/2009 9:49:19 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Lee N. Field

Since we are asking about Gal 3:29, let’s also consider Gal 3:28. For those who have been baptized in Christ, there is no Jew nor Greek(Gentile), ....nor is the male or female.

If one is able to discern God still has humans on Earth who are discernibly male and female, perhaps the verses are only referencing spiritual issues, but do NOT change the eschatology with different plans for Israel from the Church.


132 posted on 07/22/2009 12:02:47 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: just me

My question pertained to the Word of God, not simply the Bible.

In the Millenial Kingdom, He will write His instruction on the hearts of Israel and there will be no more need for teaching.

Jer 31:31-34 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah; (32) not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; forasmuch as they broke My covenant, although I was a lord over them, saith the LORD. (33) But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the LORD, I will put My law in their inward parts, and in their heart will I write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people; (34) and they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying: ‘Know the LORD’; for they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin will I remember no more.

The Church today doesn’t fit with this description.

If one asserts a New Covenant exists today for both believing Israel and Greek alike in the Church, then there is no need to teach. Since we do have need for teaching and God provides pastor-teachers as a spiritual gift, one cannot consistently take the stance we are in either the Millennial kingdom, nor that the Church has the same inheritance as Israel in that age.

There are also some well argued points regarding Israel as the wife of Christ, while the Church is the bride of Christ, but not the same person.


133 posted on 07/22/2009 12:30:36 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr; airborne; AngieGal; auggy; bearsgirl90; bethtopaz; BigBadWolf; Blogger; bradthebuilder; ...

EXCELLENT POINT.

THANKS BIG. WELL DONE.

##########################

But don’t ya know . . . the male and female differences are only figurative.

Anything beyond the figurative meaning of

maleness

and

femaleness

is purely dispensationalist hogwash based on absolutely no tangible reality at all.

. . . though quite a number of non-dispensationalist REPLACEMENTARIAN couples on their honeymoons have been rumored to beg to differ.

This convoluted line of irrational pontification has been brought to you by your local preterist, a-mil, post-mil REPLACEMENTARIAN Rubber Bible Society.

/s
/hb [humor break]


134 posted on 07/22/2009 3:56:50 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Cvengr

It is sooooo wonderful to see some refreshing new

VERY BIBLICAL POINTS on these threads.

Thanks enormously.


135 posted on 07/22/2009 3:58:25 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Religion Moderator; Lee N. Field; Frumanchu; Alex Murphy; raynearhood; Quix

I started the thread and you’ve permitted it to be hijacked by a name-calling whiner. I have no problem with others of differing opinions to share in the exchange, and so I do not hide behind the “caucus” designation. But I loathe that a certain whiner is allowed to spew pathetic, vacuous comments so freely.

It’s time for a thread designation where only substantive, thoughtful comments are allowed. Not multi-colored multi-font gibberish.


136 posted on 07/22/2009 9:41:42 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: topcat54
There are no exemptions or justifications for name-calling.
137 posted on 07/22/2009 9:49:46 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; topcat54
With all due respect, topcat started the thread and has since been subject to constant assault by particular posters. This has continued despite your clear admonition to adhere to the rules. This poster chose to follow that up with what essentially amounts to their own exemption based on the technicality of levying their insults at "groups" instead of "persons" (as though groups are not themselves made up of persons). In this case, we're talking about a consistent track record of badgering people and making intensely hostile posts.

I am not presuming to tell you how to do your job, I am simply asking you to take a fresh look at the circumstances, an in particular the posting in this thread.

138 posted on 07/22/2009 9:59:18 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: topcat54; Religion Moderator; Lee N. Field; Frumanchu; Alex Murphy; Quix
I missed the comment (don't repeat it), but seriously? You made, what, three comments the whole thread and got bumped off after the first one addressing the very annoyance from which invective drivel spews.

Off your own thread?!?!

Funny, I remember being called a Naysayer, a demon, a satanist, a hater of God, as well as being told I'm on the fast track to a place of Sulfur and suffering... all said without so much as a warning...

...and you make ONE comment and are booted off your own thread.

I agree. [Irenic Conversation] tag is due. Only people with something intelligent to say allowed.

Oh, yeah... and topcat54, Lee N., and I get to define what "irenic" means. I mean it's only fair, right? Goes along with the limiting of company on the [Rapture] threads.
139 posted on 07/22/2009 10:13:18 AM PDT by raynearhood ("Naysayers for Jesus" - Charter Member)
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To: Frumanchu; topcat54; Quix
For a statement to be "making it personal" on the Religion Forum it MUST be speaking of another Freeper, personally.

It is common when a group of believers spawns from another that both groups condemn each other in the harshest terms, e.g. cult, anathema, Satanic, heretic, apostate. Such condemnations often become part of official documents and are therefore subject to "open" debate on the RF.

It is also common for one group of believers to speak harshly of - or even ridicule - another group's religious authorities whether deities, leaders or doctrines. That should be expected on "open" threads, e.g. personal attacks addressed to Joseph Smith, Billy Graham, Popes or ridiculing beliefs, rites, doctrines.

And it is not uncommon (sadly) for believers to hate other believers for what they believe or how they behave.

But they must not let that hate surface on the Religion Forum. Personal attacks must not be addressed to other Freepers, personally.

Don't call each other liars, devils, monsters, etc. That is clearly trouble-making and incites flame wars.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

140 posted on 07/22/2009 10:18:21 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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