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To: papertyger
You are constraining Christ to your punctilious, parochial, rhetorical standards.

And you are not?

The truth is God may not consider faith and works nearly as exclusive as you do. And by the way, that's the understanding of my Church.

And then again, He very well may. See, there is not 100% provable solution here, nor a 100% agreed-to position. Thus it is dogma. It cannot be proven conclusively.

The Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by grace; it is not by communion or baptism. Thus the issue of transubstantiation - while interesting - is a minor, dogmatic issue.

831 posted on 06/29/2009 9:33:05 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
And you are not?

No, I constrain protestants to their own punctilious, parochial, rhetorical standards. They just don't like it because it shows how arbitrary their hermeneutics are aside from the goal of undermining Catholic doctrines.

The Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by grace; it is not by communion or baptism. Thus the issue of transubstantiation - while interesting - is a minor, dogmatic issue.

No, the Catholic Church teaches you WILL go to hell for not fulfilling your religious obligations. Communion is the very summit of those obligations.

850 posted on 06/29/2009 10:26:35 PM PDT by papertyger (A difference that makes no difference is no difference)
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