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To: PugetSoundSoldier
You are at odds with your own Pope, and in fact - per that article - may be committing heresy.

No, I'm not.

The ordinary Magisterium is not given infallibility by the Catechism; only the supreme Magisterium.

Congratulations! You have disproved something I did not claim.

There is not game of "gotcha" here...

Of course there is. See, if I had said "the deposit of Divine revelation," which is what I meant, then you could have saved yourself the time disproving what I did not say.

...there is only the revealing of the truth.

Thank you for referring to your explanation of Catholic teaching as "the revealing of the truth."

It's the brightest thing you've said all day.

699 posted on 06/29/2009 5:32:46 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski
Now who's backpedaling and playing gotcha in reverse...

In post 681 you stated:

The teachings of the Catholic Church are protected from error by the Holy Spirit. They are without error.

And in response in post 686 I stated:

That is not correct; not even the Catholic Church claims that! Anything from the Ordinary Magisterium is by definition fallible.

And in post 688 you responded with:

You are not the expert you claimed to be.

And I responded in post 691 with:

Apparently you do not understand the ordinary magisterium? I'd suggest learning about what your own Church believes. The ordinary magisterium is not infallible. Period. If you do not believe that, then you do not believe the teachings of your own Church.

And you stated in post 692:

The fault is yours.

Yet you have not shown any fault on my part, and you apparently disputed my assertion that the Church's teachings are not always infallible.

So backpedal, but the truth is that the teachings of the Church are NOT infallible. Only a small amount of the Church's teachings are infallible.

I suggest you take your Catechism again, and learn about your own Church.

710 posted on 06/29/2009 5:43:12 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier
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