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To: Petronski
Faith AND works.

False. Please read the words of Jesus in Mark 16 and Luke 7. NO WHERE does our Lord require works to be saved; only faith.

Please point to where Jesus says that you can be saved by works, or that you need works to be saved. He doesn't, because that's not true.

Do you think you will be saved with a dead faith?

No. If you have faith, it is alive. Jesus does not put any qualifiers on the strength of faith, or "you must have X number of works or manifestations of faith". He simply states "your faith saves you". Period.

If you wish to take later, apostolic theology over the word of Christ that is your right; for me, I will accept the words of Jesus at face value (by faith).

Question for you: do you think you can work your way into Heaven, by doing good works?

607 posted on 06/29/2009 1:23:31 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Please point to where Jesus says that you can be saved by works...

Why would I do that? I didn't say you can be saved by works.

If you have faith, it is alive.

Such is your interpretation. But those who have faith without works have a dead faith.

...do you think you can work your way into Heaven, by doing good works?

I've already made it amply clear that salvation requires faith AND works.

Hellooooo!?! McFly!?!

608 posted on 06/29/2009 1:28:37 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Please point to where Jesus says that you can be saved by works, or that you need works to be saved.

Please point me to where Jesus says sola Scriptura.

609 posted on 06/29/2009 1:29:32 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Does our friend think that a man who receives Christ on his deathbed and has done no works will go to hell? Don’t think so. His argument is, as always, a straw man.


645 posted on 06/29/2009 2:56:17 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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