[driftdiver]

“But, more suprisingly for a lot of people who have been fed anti-Church propaganda,”

No need for propaganda, the truth is ugly enough. Catholics have an extremely violent history.

[bdeaner]

Catholics have an extremely violent history.

Human beings have a violent history! Look at the Old Testament! The United States has a violent history. I hope you are not ashamed of your country.

Catholicism has always been a civilizing force in history that has moved toward less violence and basic human rights for all people -- always moving in the direction of working against the forces of barbarism, and yes often, out of necessity, by using force. There is a time for war. If it wasn't for the crusades, let's face it, we would all be praising Allah today.