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To: kosta50

just how do you and the author of Hebrews know things not seen (or detected) exist that you may have faith (trust) in them?

The soulish man presumes our knowledge of Him precedes our faith. Faith comes first. Through faith, He is free to further sanctify us.

2,745 posted on 07/20/2009 1:00:35 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)

To: Cvengr

Does the “faith that comes first” require no knowledge of Him? If not, what knowledge may precede faith? And must it always be in this order?

2,746 posted on 07/20/2009 1:36:16 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)

To: Cvengr

The soulish man presumes our knowledge of Him precedes our faith.

What? You wake up one day and believe for no reason whatsoever?

Faith comes first

How do you know that?

Through faith, He is free to further sanctify us.

And how do you know that? How do you know "He" is limited to faith and why?

2,748 posted on 07/20/2009 5:55:17 AM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)

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