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To: Markos33; D-fendr
Jesus said “I am the way”, He personally is the way.

No, Markos, the Bible says that Jesus said that. How do you know that he said that? Because the Bible says so. (circular reasoning)

But how do you know that what's in the Bible really happened? Because the Bible says so and because the Bible is the word of God? And how you you know the Bible is the word of God?

We are back on square one which you never answered (but promised you would in the morning!).

Christ alone can bring you to God

How do you know that?

“the truth”, not only does He speak the truth, but He is the truth

How do you know that?

“the life”, He is the origin of all life. He is God the creator

How do you know that?

“No man cometh to the Father but by Me.” This dogmatic statement ruins the party for all of the cults and ism’s.

Dogmatic statements are not necessarily true, they are just dogmatic. Without proving that it is true, it remains a dogmatic statement of dubious credibility. There is no proof because there is no objective knowledge. What's left is blind faith that it is true. Just because you choose to believe something is true doesn't make it true.

Other religions quote equally dogmatic statements form their holy books which they believe are from God. In fact, they claim they are from God.

So, let's go back to square one, Markos, and start again with how do you know...


2,671 posted on 07/17/2009 8:59:58 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: kosta50

“( but you promised you would in the morning!)”

No, I said on the morrow, or something similar to that.

I work long hard hours that begin in the morning and end in the evening, so I couldn’t promise something for the morning.

The day is almost over though, so I’ll get to it. It may take a little while.


2,675 posted on 07/17/2009 9:30:32 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: kosta50
“No, Markos, the Bible says that Jesus said that. How do you know that said that? Because the Bible said so. (circular reasoning)”

I don't know whether you realize it or not, but that was the shortest sermon on the authenticity of scripture that I've ever heard.

“But how do you know that what's in the Bible really happened? Because the Bible says so and because the the Bible is the word of God?” Simple faith can sometimes be frustrating.

“And how do you know the Bible is the word of God?”

What does Christ say about this...
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.” John 10:27

How do I hear his voice today, does He speak to me in an audible voice? I'd drop over dead if He did, and besides, I wouldn't believe it anyway. I hear His voice in His Word and His Spirit bears witness with my spirit that His Word is true and it is indeed His Word.

“It is the spirit that quickenth: the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” John 6:63

God's Word proves itself, it is alive!

“Other religions quote equally dogmatic statements from their holy books which they believe are from God. In fact, they claim they are from God.”

Oh really. So? Does that take away from the authenticity of the Holy Scriptures?

Because the Bible says so. Doesn't sound very high falutin’ does it. But it's all we have.

2,684 posted on 07/17/2009 10:57:13 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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