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To: kosta50
John 14:6 is a classic Judaic works-based salvation formula the Protestants reject. It pins our conduct, what people do, how they think and how they live, where they go (metaphorically speaking) to their salvation; their conduct determines if they fulfill God's requirements for it.

You are adding a tremendous amount of words to that scripture to make it mean what you want it to mean...

Nothing in the verse says that God cannot save a non-Christian or that a non-Christian cannot walk the metaphorical way of Christ, or "know" the metaphorical truth of God.

That's true...God can do anything He wants...But what the verse says is that God 'will' not save anyone in this age who doesn't pass the muster with Jesus first...

The scripture is so clear that one is saved by Grace thru faith in Jesus Christ and will accept it freely, OR one will live by the law and be judged by the law which will result in Hell...

A Hindu may as well pack his tropical clothes if he goes thru this life without Jesus Christ...

What Jesus is saying in John 14:6 is simply "do/think/live this way and you will be saved." No faith required here, and no limits placed on God's will to save whomever he wills to save for his own reasons.

You can't pick a single verse, add words to it and build a doctrine on it...Jesus says you must be born again...Born from above...No one will make it to Heaven without Faith in Jesus Christ...

2,668 posted on 07/17/2009 6:44:46 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
You are adding a tremendous amount of words to that scripture to make it mean what you want it to mean...

And if I were a Protestant I would probably say the Holy Spirit taught me...Clearly, the verse is metaphorical and not literal, and as such pertains to our conduct, i.e. if we imitate Christ, what Christ stood for. There is not a word of any faith or belief in it, just as there is none at the end of Matthew 25.

That's true...God can do anything He wants...But what the verse says is that God 'will' not save anyone in this age who doesn't pass the muster with Jesus first...

Passing the muster had to do with their conduct. Jesus was referring to what people did (works), and the Bible leaves no doubt that he will base his judgment on that.

 45"Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'  46"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." [Mat 25:45-46]

The scripture is so clear that one is saved by Grace thru faith in Jesus Christ and will accept it freely, OR one will live by the law and be judged by the law which will result in Hell...

No, that is what Paul preached. Jesus preached otherwise, at least in the first three Gospels. 

A Hindu may as well pack his tropical clothes if he goes thru this life without Jesus Christ...

A Hindu may feel the same way about a Christian because his holy books say so.

You can't pick a single verse, add words to it and build a doctrine on it...Jesus says you must be born again...Born from above...No one will make it to Heaven without Faith in Jesus Christ...

That's what he appears to be saying in that verse. The Bible is full of salvational formulas which are not always in synch, including that a woman is saved by having children.

2,673 posted on 07/17/2009 9:26:39 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: Iscool
You can't pick a single verse, add words to it and build a doctrine on it

Apropos, adding words, even whole verses, is precisely what took place in the process of creating the Christian canon.

2,674 posted on 07/17/2009 9:30:00 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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