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To: stfassisi
Just more rationalizing of the indefensible.

The fact that God "transcends time and space" does nothing to support Rome's error of mistaking the spiritual for the material.

If what you've offered here is what Rome is teaching you, no wonder so many RCs are bewildered as to the Scriptural truth.

What you have done lately is to take every questionable practice of Rome and defend it, not by Scripture, but by a goofy mindless recitation of "God is outside of time."

There are better answers for the truth. Get a Bible and find them.

The Church sees these verses as a prophecy of the Sacrifice of the Mass, for what other truly pure sacrifice could there be that Christians can offer throughout the world every day?

The sacrifice was Christ's to offer; not our own. And that sacrifice is complete. We remember it; we don't repeat it as if it hadn't accomplished all that God ordained..

1,016 posted on 06/30/2009 4:34:26 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; stfassisi

Read Augustine? I mean REALLY read Augustine?

Much of what Calvin and others took as predestination is Augustine talking about God being all knowing and existing outside of time. In “Confessions”, near the end, there is a part that I swear a writer of the Star Trek franchise put into an episode or two.


1,023 posted on 06/30/2009 4:54:13 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
What you have done lately is to take every questionable practice of Rome and defend it, not by Scripture, but by a goofy mindless recitation of "God is outside of time."

I'm concerned about your mental state ,Dr E.

Almost all of the Aquinas posted to you by me over the past few weeks is backed up with scripture

If you deny God being outside of time than God is not omnipotent, and therefore not God.

1,031 posted on 06/30/2009 5:07:24 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Rome's error of mistaking the spiritual for the material.

The problem is not with the Catholic Church's infallible interpretation of Scripture. The problem seems to lie with your having fallen victim, at least in part, to the Manichean heresy. I've already addressed this in a former post with reference to Scripture.
1,060 posted on 06/30/2009 6:59:51 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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