Posted on 06/27/2009 10:33:55 PM PDT by bdeaner
Mormons are far closer to you than to us...They have their own scriptures as you have your own tradition...They, like you, are the one true church...
I admit, I shouldn't say Protestant...I should say non-Catholic...The Episcos and Anglicans are Catholics without a pope...
"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." -- Mark 13:6
Just about the ONLY thing that unites them, other than belief in Jesus Christ, is their rejection of the Catholic Church. That's really the one thing all PROTEST-ant sects have in common -- their PROTEST against the Mother Church established by Our Lord, the Catholic Church.
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You don't even know what it means.
For you to rebuke that statement puts you outside orthodox Christianity. We are saved by Christ’s righteousness and not our own.
Christ didn't say that. YOU did.
So you reject the Trinity too.
Rebuking your words puts one outside orthodox Christianity?
LOLROFLMTO
YOUR words?
LOL
It took the coming of our second father, Jesus Christ, to redeem us from that sin by standing in our place before God and taking on the punishment rightly due us so that we now stand acquitted before the eyes of God.
The RCC used to better understand original sin. Lately it seems the double speak has extended even to this basic Christian belief.
"Your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit"
Is our body made from bricks and mortar? No, Paul is speaking of the spiritual body. We are spiritual beings and you want to remain carnal.
But the fact that we are spiritual beings most definitely effects our physical life on earth by the good fruits produced by the Holy Spirit within us. We are His children. We were created to mirror the joy of Christ in all things.
The Scriptures overwhelmingly support the Catholic position with regard to enacting physically our spiritual sanctification.
That sentence doesn't even make much sense. All you're doing is grasping at straws hoping to justify your pagan ritual of transubstantiation which is idolatry in God's eyes. Christ is in heaven, not being served up in temples made with hands. He made His sacrifice for His lost sheep and that one-time, completed sacrifice has been accepted by God and marked "paid-in-full."
"Spiritually" for St. Paul means acting genuinely from within rather than just externally
lol. How does a man "act genuinely?" How does a man perform righteousness if what is "within" him is rebellious by nature?
Answer: he must be born again, spiritually, by the free gift of the Holy Spirit, according to the will and purpose of God.
Since when is taking the name of the Lord in vain a measure of orthodox Christianity?
Jesus didn't say that: you did.
The LDS do not believe in Jesus. They use the name, but they define Jesus in a way that denies everything that Christians believe. Jesus is not the brother of Satan, and we will not someday be Gods of our own little world...
It would take a long post to discuss...I lived in Utah for 6 years, and had many LONG talks with Mormons.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. If I had a nickle for every "saved" person I know that has been set free of nothing but their guilt, I could have retired in my first year of "salvation."
Let me add my voice to Mr. Rogers’. He knows what he’s talking about.
Not accurate at all...From the accounts of the scripture as well as the accounts of your Catholic history and non-Catholic history, there were many churches in the beginning...And these churches were far closer to the teaching of Jesus and the apostles than your church has ever been...
Your religion burned their scriptures, labled them as heretics and murdered a great many...
By looking at your current church and your church history, it's clear to very many that yours is the group that Jesus and the apostles warned us about...
Sure, your group has been there for a long time...
And you guys never mention your church split when half the bunch turned completely left and went with Rome and it Pagans with Constantine at the head...
“And the part YOU’RE missing is the bible isn’t comprehensive enough to be the “final authority.”
And yet, for hundreds of years, we’ve been content to settle - or at least discuss - issues using the Bible as our ultimate authority.
What non-scriptural excuses are you writing about?
“I’m familiar with the “once saved” doctrine. It’s unscriptural. “
If you will cite the scriptures it contradicts, I’ll be glad to discuss it with you.
I’m copying, but folks put a lot of work into thinking this out, and I agree with them.
4.1 The grace of faith (by which the elect are enabled to believe to the saving of their souls) is the work of the Spirit of Christ in their hearts. It is normally brought into being by the ministry of the Word. It is increased and strengthened by the ministry of the Word, and by the administration of baptism and the Lord’s supper, prayer, and other means appointed by God.
14.3 This faith may differ in degree, and may be weak or strong, yet even at its weakest it is different in kind and nature (as is all saving grace) from the faith and common grace of temporary believers. Therefore, though it may be frequently attacked and weakened, it gains the victory, and develops in many until they attain full assurance through Christ, who is both the author and finisher of our faith.
Faith without works IS dead! Works without faith have no value in any way! Our salvation results in our becoming a new creation.
All of us - including Catholics - have seen impostors come into the ‘church’, who claim to have faith but who do not. I’ve known both Catholics and Baptists who never lost a chance to commit adultery, but I’ve never known a Christian who lived that way!
Baloney. There isn't a single, solitary verse to support the idea any given city had more than one congregation of people calling themselves Christians.
That kind of duplicity is unconscionable.
Holy Eucharist is Christ's gift to us, partaking of it is His command. It is by definition Christian, not pagan.
...which is idolatry in God's eyes.
So says you. Christ commands it and you say it is idolatry--idolatry to worship Him!--in His eyes.
I'm going to have to go with what Christ teaches, not you.
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