Posted on 06/27/2009 10:33:55 PM PDT by bdeaner
Who is the sin debt owed to?
What is it that forgives sins?
Yes I read it. I’m familiar with Rome’s double speak.
Music.
Aww, you’re playing a game!
How cute.
Context is everything. Those were the disciples who were given the Holy Spirit by Jesus. (Holy Trinity anyone)
Is your priest a disciple appointed by Jesus?
The reason for that is because God has chosen to reveal Himself now directly to the believer through the holy Scriptures by the free gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit.
Actually, the references explain WHY Protestants have CONCLUDED Scripture is sufficient.
***Nope, you’re a Roman Catholic. In the common vernacular, a Roman Catholic is a Catholic who follows the Pope, rather than a Eastern Catholic who follows the Patriarch. ***
“The Patriarch”?
What part of cops are not guilty of kidnapping didn't you understand?
***The Vatican is located within Rome; that is the physical location. Protestations notwithstanding! ***
It’s across the Tiber.
***But back to a question posed earlier that you have refused to answer: what is the Biblical basis for the papacy?***
Matthew 16:
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8 When Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi 9 he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?”
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They replied, “Some say John the Baptist, 10 others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
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He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
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11 Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
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Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood 12 has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father.
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And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, 13 and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.
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I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. 14 Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
###The Pope is the steward of Jesus. That is the significance of the keys.
***For the Biblical reference, see 2 Thessalonians 2:15:
With all these things in mind, dear brothers, stand firm and keep a strong grip on the truth that we taught you in our letters and during the time we were with you.
- From the Catholic Living Bible
So St. Augustine and St. Paul both call on the Divine and ultimate truth of the Bible. Sola Scriptura.***
False. St. Paul did not know that his letters would be named Scripture. He wanted the people under his authority as bishop to follow his theological commands, as all bishops do.
***Where is the word Trinity in the Bible?
The word is not. The concept is. Can you say the same about the Pope or ex cathedra writs from the Pope?***
It has as much direct and indirect evidence.
***The big lie of the RCC is “apostolic succession.” ***
Interesting. The only bigger lie of the outcome of the Reformation than what came from John Calvin is what came from Joseph Smith.
***But there is zero in Scripture about these supernatural gifts and abilities being propagated down through history.***
So Matthias means nothing? Or have you redacted that, too, from your Bible?
***The reason for that is because God has chosen to reveal Himself now directly to the believer through the holy Scriptures by the free gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit.***
Given the bizarre interpretations of Scripture, and the editing of substantial Gospel passages, I’d say that the Reformed do not bear more than passing resemblance to Christian, and certainly nothing influenced by the Holy Spirit. The Reformation refutation of the Nicene Creed is very convincing evidence.
The church is not made up of celibate wizards but lively stones, a priesthood of all believers.
[2 Peter 3:16] Douay-Rheims: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.
It appears Peter neglected to tell him!
The “major take home point” of this article is the same cloistered folly Rome has been dishing for centuries — there is no salvation outside the Roman Catholic church.
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Exactly! Cults make the claim that there is no salvation except through the cult.
***False. St. Paul did not know that his letters would be named Scripture.
[2 Peter 3:16] Douay-Rheims: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.
It appears Peter neglected to tell him!***
There is no evidence that the letters of Paul, written before most of the rest of the NT, were written by him with the understanding that they would be considered Scripture. When was 2 Peter written? Well after most of Paul’s epistles were written, that’s for sure.
It may not have been written by Peter; scholars have placed it anywhere from 60 to 160 AD.
***When you find the Scripture that tells us the Apostles have been succeeded by 2,000 years of more apostles be sure to let us know.***
When you find the Scripture that tells us that the Apostles have been succeeded by bizarre and power mad warpers of the Gospel, be sure to let us know.
***The church is not made up of celibate wizards but lively stones, a priesthood of all believers.***
How would the Reformed know? You have repeatedly shown me that you do not believe in the Christian Triune God. At any rate, Paul thought that celibacy for the Catholic priesthood was a good thing. But I keep forgetting: you guys don’t believe in Paul’s words; you only keep a few out of context verses and warp them into a mockery of Christian beliefs.
I’m sorry, I should have said the Patriarchs, the title usually used for the spiritual leaders of the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox churches.
And it's within the boundaries of Rome. The Via Cipro runs to the West of Vatican City, and that is within the city of Rome. Not to mention it wasn't it's own "country" until 1929.
Rome surrounds the Vatican; you cannot enter the Vatican without passing through Rome.
Yes, Paul would not assume his words would carry the impact of those of the rest of Scripture; oh that the office of the Pope - with his ex cathedra claims - were so humble.
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