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To: Uncle Chip
But those variants exist in the Alexandrian manuscripts as the differ from the Byzantine manuscripts that underly the KJV which Mormons ascribe to.

That's probably why Mormons have as an article of faith:
"We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly"

Is there anyone who believes differently?

44 posted on 06/24/2009 6:33:30 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon; All
...as far as it is translated correctly."

Translated by whom is the question. Mormonism requires you to put your faith in a man of extremely questionable character and morals. A man who has been found to have been fooled by the papyri and the kinderhook plates. If he was inspired of God, how does a man make so many errors in the bom? A man who has been shown time and time again to be in error.

If the bom is supposedly the most correct book on the face of the planet and js was doing God's work, why then did God allow him to be killed? Why wasn't he allowed to finish the work?

When confronted with these facts, how then, can one believe that the js version of the Bible is anywhere near accurate and or translated correctly?

The qualifier statement at the beginning of this post was used on me years ago, and I will admit, I was easy pickin’s for the missionaries because I didn’t have a religious background. Now that my cynicism of the many things mormon have been shown to be correct, my problem is to get to know the Lord and put my faith in Him, not a man. Not only that, I must somehow show and prove to my wife that what she’s believed for over 40 years is false.

Everything about the lds church, bom and js vers. of the Bible requires one to build their entire faith on the back of one man.

Regarding translating, I’ll take a biblical scholar over js anyday. Regarding salvation, I'll take Jesus over js.

SZ

49 posted on 06/24/2009 7:22:43 AM PDT by SZonian (I'm a Canal Zone brat)
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To: TheDon
That's probably why Mormons have as an article of faith: "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly"

Then why don't they believe the King James Bible, the translation that they say they ascribe to???

51 posted on 06/24/2009 7:57:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: TheDon

I do not then make the claim that the only correctly translated book is BOM. Look Smith is a fraud and charlatan. The post about the facsimile translation was unaddressed by you. Smith claimed to have translated those very characters in that many. Known scholars have since, through use of the Rosetta Stone, proven him wrong -—not as a variant but flat out wrong. Deal with it


55 posted on 06/24/2009 8:58:32 AM PDT by the long march
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To: TheDon; Uncle Chip

***But those variants exist in the Alexandrian manuscripts as the differ from the Byzantine manuscripts that underly the KJV which Mormons ascribe to.***

***That’s probably why Mormons have as an article of faith:
“We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly”***

From the Translators to the Reader Preface KJV 1611

...• Now to the latter we answer, that we do not deny, nay, we affirm and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English, set forth by men of our profession, ..... containeth the Word of God, nay, is the Word of God.
• 2 As the King’s Speech which he uttered in Parliament, being translated into French, Dutch, Italian, and Latin, is still the King’s Speech, though it be not interpreted by every translator with the like grace, nor peradventure so fitly for phrase, nor so expressly for sense, everywhere.

It would do you well to read the entire preface to the original KJV. You will see there is nothing seriously mistranslated about it.


59 posted on 06/24/2009 9:19:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (A modern liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do so long as it is compulsory.)
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To: TheDon
"We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly"

So which parts are not "translated correctly" - what has your prophet and seer discerned? Seems he 'corrected' those areas in the JST/IV. So state chapter and verse which are not correct.

64 posted on 06/24/2009 9:42:28 AM PDT by Godzilla (TEA: Taxed Enough Already)
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