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Jesus is not outside of time by virtue of His human nature. He did not exist from all eternity for it required Mary's "yes" to bring about that union of God and man. Without Mary's "yes", there is no Jesus.

So without Mary, there'd be no Jesus, eh??? The fact that this was prophesied a few years in advance shows that it was a done deal...

Mary's permission wasn't needed at at...In fact, her knowledge of the operation wasn't even necessary for it to happen...

If Jesus' only role was to be the head of the body, the church, it could have been any girl and she wouldn't have to know she was carrying God's child...Some young fella coming up claiming to be God and performing miracles like Jesus did would probably be enough for the church to believe in...

But Jesus came as the Messiah to the Jews, something they had been promised for years...And for that role, certain things had to happen and some rules had to be followed, ie, the lineage thing...

You guys got it wrong...Mary wasn't blessed because she said 'I do'...She was blessed because she was born and chosen for the role well ahead of time...

You guys got it wrong.

So you keep insisting.

That would be me....and Aquinas.....and numerous Church councils in every age.....and Bernard.....and Bede....and Basil.......and.....well you get the picture!

Duffers one and all!!

BTW, I find posts like your last one hugely entertaining.

The complete lack of self-second guessing with which you dispense your half-baked theology is truly appealing....:-)