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To: marshmallow; Iscool; Marysecretary
Thank you for sharing your testimony, dear marshmallow!

Jesus is not outside of time by virtue of His human nature. He did not exist from all eternity for it required Mary's "yes" to bring about that union of God and man. Without Mary's "yes", there is no Jesus.

Whereas I understand the importance some give to Mary’s having said “yes” – by my Spiritual understanding, it is truly beautiful but not as important simply because nothing can thwart the will of God.

And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. – Matthew 3:9

On the main issue, we shall continue to disagree.

I aver that Jesus lives timelessly, He is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Even enfleshed, He had life in Himself.

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; - John 5:26

Or to put it another way, He didn’t stop being God when He was enfleshed.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:1-5

Thus I aver the Name Jesus, like He Himself, did not begin in Mary's womb though certainly we celebrate His incarnation and resurrection!

Or to put it another way, the Name which was announced to Mary who was “in” time came from “beyond” time, just like the Name which was announced to Moses who was “in” time came from “beyond” time.

And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. - Luke 1:31

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. – Exodus 3:14

I cannot time-stamp when God's Name became Truth, only when He chose to reveal that Truth to us.

Thus we shall not agree on the point – in your understanding, the Name Jesus had a beginning "in" time – in mine, His Names are not time bound because He is timeless.

Though I hasten to add, that Jesus' being enfleshed was how He chose to create and sacrifice His own Blood - timelessly, as God - for our redemption. The blood of a mere created being - whether ox or man - would not do.

Nevertheless, thank you for this opportunity to enter my testimony!

God’s Name is I AM.

165 posted on 06/25/2009 8:08:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

great posts as usual...thanks...


172 posted on 06/25/2009 12:16:47 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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