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To: muawiyah

It sounds like you and I are making the same point.

Likewise in England it was a top down, Henry VIII led, rebellion. In Switzerland the protestant princes tried at one point to starve out the catholics in seige. Zwingli himself was, if I recall correctly, killed in battle. In Lutheran lands the state church was simply replaced with one loyal to princes supporting lutheranism.

In most cases there was an incredible amount of money and lands siezed by the princes supporting the “reformation”. Persecution of Catholics who remained loyal to Rome in protestant lands was real and deadly.


58 posted on 06/19/2009 7:07:18 PM PDT by lucias_clay (Its times like this I'm glad I'm a whig.)
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To: lucias_clay

It was all 16th and 17th century politics ~ not religion as we know it today.


59 posted on 06/19/2009 7:09:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lucias_clay
Must add in something about Protestant politics. The Kalmar Union was broken up as a result of a conflict between Denmark and Sweden.

The Danish King had murdered a bunch of Swedish nobles. The Vassa King (I believe he was called) had to create a new nobility to get his country back in business. He brought in wealthy, intelligent, highly trained or ruthless men from other countries.

Within a short time he became the King of The North with the takeover of Finland. He extended Sweden into Litnuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, the German States, Denmark, Scandia, etc.

By the time the Danish Phase of the Thirty Years War came around he and his successors had secured a permanent alliance with France.

There was little persecution of Catholics in the Scandinavian lands ~ mostly because there weren't enough Catholics to bother with, and where there were lots of Catholics the Swedish church simply didn't attempt the Lutheran alternative.

Kind of a shorthand reason about why Poles are Catholics.

88 posted on 06/19/2009 8:16:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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