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A Closer Look At Stephen Covey And His 7 Habits -LDS- (OPEN)
Home Mission Board, SBC ^ | Bill Gordon

Posted on 06/15/2009 10:22:41 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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1 posted on 06/15/2009 10:22:42 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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2 posted on 06/15/2009 10:24:56 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (All the boxes are gone: soapbox, ballot box, jury box, bullet box. History of the future with Obama.)
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3 posted on 06/15/2009 10:26:46 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (All the boxes are gone: soapbox, ballot box, jury box, bullet box. History of the future with Obama.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Begin with the end in mind.


4 posted on 06/15/2009 10:26:54 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: greyfoxx39
As man now is, God once was; As God now is, man may become.

Uh, no.

5 posted on 06/15/2009 10:27:36 AM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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It gets worse:

One of the things that Covey believes evangelical churches have gotten wrong is the doctrine of the Trinity which he calls an “apostate doctrine.” He claims that the doctrine of the Trinity has “lead people to believe that we are a creation of God rather than his literal offspring.” [Divine Center, p. 82.]

6 posted on 06/15/2009 10:33:40 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Matthew 15:8 - 9)
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To: Terabitten
..and worse:

Their [evangelical Christians]concepts drastically reduce man’s ultimate potential. To them, the potential is not to become like God, not to have eternal life — that is, to have the kind of life and character that God has, to become perfected as he is — but instead to become his eternal robots, worshipping him in a saved condition throughout all eternity.

7 posted on 06/15/2009 10:35:49 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Matthew 15:8 - 9)
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To: Terabitten
Covey’s beliefs about salvation are also uniquely Mormon. He warns his readers against seeking “any kind of ‘special’ relationship” with Jesus Christ.

So, are Mormons Christians?

8 posted on 06/15/2009 10:37:32 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Matthew 15:8 - 9)
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To: restornu

I assume you are on the ping list of post 2. However, in case you are not, and because you have been gracious enough to welcome me to LDS threads, I thought I would ping you just in case. In any event, I know nothing of Covey as theologian, so to speak, but his influence as motivational writer and speaker is undeniably great.


9 posted on 06/15/2009 10:45:54 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: 4mer Liberal

ping


10 posted on 06/15/2009 10:48:00 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Matthew 15:8 - 9)
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To: greyfoxx39

I had no idea what Covey’s religious beliefs were. His principles spelled out in his book “7 Habits” are sound, and shouldn’t be dismissed simply because his application based on his religious beliefs are not.


11 posted on 06/15/2009 11:02:23 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: greyfoxx39

Actually Covey copied those 7 habits from someone else’s book...

Plagurism ??? A mormon doing that ???

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


12 posted on 06/15/2009 12:00:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

Apparently much of the seven habits idea from a 1966 Peter Drucker article called “The Effective Executive”, in which Drucker wrote “effectiveness, in other words, is a habit.”

In Drucker’s book there is a chapter called “First Things First”—itself one of Covey’s seven habits.


13 posted on 06/15/2009 12:02:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

And that is why I don’t mess around with Covey at all and point out the cultlike characteristics of his writings to anybody who will listen...and have done so for years.


14 posted on 06/15/2009 12:10:32 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley; Tennessee Nana

Well, it seems to be a real money maker for Covey. The bottom line is the bottom line donchaknow?


15 posted on 06/15/2009 12:13:59 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (All the boxes are gone: soapbox, ballot box, jury box, bullet box. History of the future with Obama.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Covey simply published a book epitomizing Mormonism.

He should have entitled it “7 Habits of Men who Become Legends in Their Own Minds.”

When was the last time a Mormon published anything having to do with humility?


16 posted on 06/15/2009 12:15:42 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Wow.

You did some nice background work on Covey’s very profitable empire!!


17 posted on 06/15/2009 12:27:03 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: markomalley

I was considering using his “7 Habits” as a source book for a workplace management training course.

There is no way now that I will use Covey’s book.

This one here is now on the top of my list to use:

“Corps Business: The 30 Management Principles of the U.S. Marines”

http://www.amazon.com/Corps-Business-Management-Principles-Marines/dp/0066619785/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245085675&sr=1-4


18 posted on 06/15/2009 12:30:08 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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19 posted on 06/15/2009 12:31:41 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Or you could try, “Patton’s Principles: A Handbook for Managers who Mean It!” (http://www.amazon.com/Pattons-Principles-Handbook-Managers-Mean/dp/0671459732)


20 posted on 06/15/2009 12:39:11 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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