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To: sitetest

Well, I didn’t know that history of Cursillo ... we were told that it was a product of V2. Perhaps it was transported to the Anglican/Episcopal community after V2?


26 posted on 06/15/2009 5:44:47 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: meandog
Dear meandog,

Well, it appears that it came to the United States in 1957, to the Catholic Church in the US. For Catholics to share it with non-Catholics, in the US, it would have, coincidentally, had to have occurred either as the Council was going on, or afterward. We Catholics in the US couldn't have shared it with others before we, ourselves, were exposed to it.

But the timing was happenstance.

The difficulty is with taking stuff out of historical context, imagining that what happened at the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council was a rupture with what went before.

It was not. Liturgical reform, re-understanding of the role of the laity, ecumenicism, all these things came before the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council. All of them were developing before the Council, and the Council, properly understood, was merely a milestone on the path of all this that was happening.

Regrettably, many took the Council as an opportunity to push their favorite heresy, and the supreme heresy that was pushed in the name of “Vatican II” was that it represented a rupture with what came before it in Catholic teaching and history.

And Pope Benedict understands that it is the hermeneutic of continuity that is the proper way to interpret the Council. As did Pope John Paul II. As did Pope John Paul I. And as did Pope Paul VI (and of course Blessed Pope John XXIII, but none of the stupid stuff had begun in earnest by the time of his death, so it is an anachronism to claim his mantle for any of it). Unfortunately, the voices of the heretics were often louder and easier to listen to than the voice of Pope Paul VI (and my own view is that he was at least partly to blame for this, as he often stepped on his own lines).

When the rubber hit the road, when many expected him to interpret the Council as a rupture with the past, he continued to teach Catholic Truth, most especially in the encyclical Humanae Vitae.

It's only folks who didn't actually pay attention to what he said, to what he taught, that thought what he was saying or doing represented the hermeneutic of rupture.


sitetest

28 posted on 06/15/2009 5:58:09 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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