Evangelical editor picks a quarrel with his cohorts (claims they have lost their way)

Charlotte Observer ^ | June 6, 2009 | Tim Funk

[umbagi]

Is there a PCA ping list?

[Lee N. Field]

Not specifically PCA, there is the GRPL

[AnAmericanMother]

Which one did you sing? I must have posted half a dozen by now (including some really off the wall Sacred Harp which is a hobby of mine). If you look at the Sacred Harp trailer, one fellow says, "They asked me, 'Do you want to sound like a bunch of uneducated Southerners?' I said, ' . . . YEAH!'"

Our church seats 840. Fortunately, not everybody shows up for Mass at the same time.

[Desdemona]

if we are to get young people into the church we must play the music they like.

Um, my parish can challenge that. Beautiful music transcends age. We have plenty of young people in a choir that is REALLY good for a parish. And they love the challenge of Renaissance and Baroque pieces.

[Lee N. Field]

Ah, here we go! Listen to these: http://www.freechurch.org/resources/audio/psalms.htm. (Some in Gaelic, most in Engleesh.)

Another handful: http://www.freenorthchurch.org/psalms.htm

Enjoy.

[umbagi]

Not specifically PCA, there is the GRPL

Close enough -- thanks!

[bboop]

So. how far are you from Los Angeles? I’ll be over. We have ‘Captain Ahab’ on the organ upstairs — my son and I cannot sit together, because if either of us dares to take a peek at him, we roll our eyes. But the no music mass is, of course, wonderful.

I did politely talk to the organist once, thanking him for playing/ singing How Great Thou Art, requesting could we maybe do other of the Great Old Hymns. He obstinately replied that there were some very good NEW hymns in the OCP book too. Not really.

We are so content and thankful, however, to have good, solid orthodoxy that we don’t complain.

I never heard the Nicene Creed spoken in a Protestant Church.

[Desdemona]

The Batten "O Sing Joyfully". We sometimes sing pieces that are a cappella and in canon from the transepts. It's really cool, actually.

When you do the pieces from another time when all people did was study, you appreciate the musicianship that we've somewhat lost.

We do Sacred Harp from time to time, but as we are the Cathedral Choir, it's not all that often.

[allmendream]

Seven rules?

And here I thought there were TEN.

[Desdemona]

He obstinately replied that there were some very good NEW hymns in the OCP book too.

The Mass parts from the Missa di Angeles are in the OCP book. Ask for them sometime. Chant is really very easy.

OCP took out "Praise God in His Holy Dwelling" and that was the end for me. That was one of the few decent "new" hymns in there.

[Lee N. Field]

I never heard the Nicene Creed spoken in a Protestant Church.

I have. Probably depends where you've been. Your basic "mutt evangelical" church, unlikely.

[MarkBsnr]

***ummmmm . . . hate to be the near occasion of sin, but OF COURSE we do. Whenever we do a motet, we always do the chant first, then our music director does a little filigree on the organ if necessary to change keys, then off we go.
Our music director has even taught us to read Gregorian notation. THAT was a first for me, coming from the Episcopal church. “Chant” in our former life meant four- and six- part Anglican chant. Which is cool stuff, but quite different from Gregorian.

Here is a spoof recording of the British Highway Code pertaining to pedestrians, done by The Master Singers in three or four different Anglican chant settings - The Highway Code. But it gives you an idea of the Anglican sound — the part that begins with “always use subways, footbridges, pedestrian crossing or central refuges” is the traditional setting for Psalm 22 and my favorite Anglican chant.***

You are a child of God - this is brilliant. Thank you. Just to pay you back (heh heh), try Not the Nine O’Clock News taking on the Apostles’ Creed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUQcCvX2MKk&feature=related

Rowan Atkinson is brilliant (we named our youngest daughter Rowan).

[Marysecretary]

Good music can attract people to the church. I loved singing in the choir growing up in the church. We put on a lovely cantata one Palm Sunday, but we don’t have a choir anymore. I do miss that. I sang in a number of choral groups in the past, too. They were lots of fun and the music was varied and wonderful. I especially liked the Messiah.

[HiramQuick]

I would challenge anyone to read “The Problem of Wineskins: Church Structure in Technological Age” a treatise written by Howard Snyder some 30 years, maybe longer, ago. He saw back then where evangelicals were headed. A radical concept ... based on radical words. The scriptures.

Does anyone believe in the Inerrant Word of God anymore? Modern day evangelicals have moved so far away from scriptural concepts that the greats like B.B Warfield, and even modern day Martin Lloyd-Jones are probably turning over in their graves

See Luke 5:37-39

[kalee]

I prefer the anonymous setting of Rejoice in the Lord Alway too.

[truthandlife]

This article is right on target!!!

[Lee N. Field]

The Problem of Wineskins: Church Structure in Technological Age

I'll have to look for that one. In my abundant free time, of course.

T. David Gordon lectures on “Reformed Worship in the Electronic Age”. "Media ecology" stuff. The first two have the meat, the third kind-a wanders and the fourth is a recap. Method is not irrelevant.

[Jemian]

Does anyone believe in the Inerrant Word of God anymore?

I do.

1Ki 19:18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.

[AnAmericanMother]

LOLROTF here . . .

"Our Father or Mother, who art in Heaven, Mecca, or Salt Lake City . . . "

Longtime Blackadder fan here.

[MarkBsnr]

***LOLROTF here . . .
“Our Father or Mother, who art in Heaven, Mecca, or Salt Lake City . . . “

Longtime Blackadder fan here.***

Oh bless you, bless you. My darling bride, impeccable in every other possible and imaginable way, detests Blackadder. For a while at Kweznuz we always watched Blackadder’s Christmas then the tape mysteriously disappeared...